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    Posted: 02 Dec 18 at 4:05pm
Yes

It’s all a shambles

In terms of the Finn fleets nationally and globally they will be fine

For each full timer who packs up there will be several sailors who join the fleet

Kit may get cheaper ?

There will also be some sailors who were put off attending events because of the
presence of the full timers who now will join in ?

The UK fleet won’t noticeably be affected but it’s a shame now that we can’t rub shoulders with the super stars (even if it usually just in the dinghy park or at the bar !)
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Seems the thoughts are they will be fine, perhaps even flourish? Does having full timers in the fleet actually put some off knowing they have no chance of being anywhere near them?

When I say 'fine', it's obviously dependent on iGRF not going back on his Finn opinions, actually sailing one and thus killing the Class off.
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Cock up or conspiracy? I wonder if someone simply put the wrong labels on and shuffled the names. Easily done. The other good cockup is sorting the spreadsheet and not including all the columns. No doubt we shall see although of course if it was that sort of cockup the conspiracy theorists won't believe it...
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When the CEO doesn’t even sail, I doubt there’s much that motivates World Sailing to go to the actual effort to subvert due process with illicit voting  .... definite cock up!   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 18 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by Dangerousday

Seems the thoughts are they will be fine, perhaps even flourish? Does having full timers in the fleet actually put some off knowing they have no chance of being anywhere near them?
When I say 'fine', it's obviously dependent on iGRF not going back on his Finn opinions, actually sailing one and thus killing the Class off.


There may well be some who come back/into the class

Perhaps the pumping should also be banned now ? That may get even more back ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 18 at 6:13pm
Well given the price point of the boat, the typical sailor and it’s position as the premier masters class for the cognitive as well as physical game of sailboat racing, it would surely make sense for the class to consult its membership over the free pumping rules.
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Yes

The pumping rule (as ‘good’ as it has been for the youth and in an attempt to attract more youth) does mean that races when the pumping flag is up become races for two fleets (the youth and the masters)

This has put off some very good sailors

For many of us however it’s been fantastic to watch the younger athletes, learn from them, buy their used kit etc

Edited by rich96 - 02 Dec 18 at 6:49pm
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Personally I like the option to pump (and it is an option). All the Finn events have overall awards plus age groups (Masters 40-49, Grand Masters 50-59, Great Grand Mastes60-69, Legends 70-79 and Super-Legends 80+) and the Class encourages and rewards all of them.
This means that your racing in your category as well as overall, so your competitors have similar physical abilities to yourself, though this year, aged 49 I’ve been battling with the super fit 40 year olds😜

Largest catagory in the UK Fleet is the Grand Masters, followed by the Great Grand Masters, so the pumping doesn’t seem to put many off!

And as said, the trickle-down of good used kit will be sorely missed
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 18 at 6:41am
Without the Olympic kudos and steady supply of used kit, is the Finn now competing more closely with the OK? The OK is a classy bit of kit with a good international scene, and presumably cheaper than a Finn. Probably also a better fit for most bodies.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 18 at 8:02am
There is an overlap - some folk sail both

The Finn masters numbers are in a different league however

Also lots of the Finn helms are too big firm an OK

The Finn kit will have to become cheaper though




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