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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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They should have made the fireball assymm years ago, with that nose it could also have a fabulous swinging pole, imagine what one would be like fully down to weight, sandwich construction, carbon rig and mast head assym kite on a long swinging pole, it would absolutely rock.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Looks a very small kite.
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I'm imagining it, and it's now too fast to sail at half the venues fireballs are popular at. Plus, swinging sprits, really? If anything is a relic of the past, it's swinging poles. I don't think the low turnout is anything to do with boat, as it's far to sudden a drop from the previous years. It must be circumstantial, which is why I asked because I couldn't see any obvious reason why this year they would get such a low entry. Most probbaly a mixture of the reasons already mentioned. Plus, I saw their worlds include a pre-world french nationals and lay day, so the best part of two weeks off work once you factor travel. Edited by mozzy - 25 Jul 18 at 8:19am |
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Fatboi ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Aug 16 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 189 |
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92 Entries for the worlds - Looks like a pretty great turn out there!
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Ha ![]() Edited by iGRF - 25 Jul 18 at 9:53am |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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someone tried it, it sucked...
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Well they didn't do it properly then. No good letting sym sailors try to design assyms, would be like using a windsurfer to design SUPS.. doh. |
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Fireballs already have a swinging pole that works through a wide angle, far greater than any contraption mounted below the forestry... having a symmetric kite means they never need to gybe it. It's pulling non-stop from the moment it's set, to the moment it's dowsed.
The symmetric is absolutely ideal for enclosed waters, and it's probably the reason the fireball has held a niche as a trapeze boat that can be sailed at tight venues.
Putting an assy on a swinging sprit is counterproductive for obvious reasons. Plus, snowflake? A term once used as a put down to the easily offended youth, now reused by the elderly who find themselves low on wit and confronted with a counter views. |
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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Yes - there seem to be a lot more Fireballs around than any other medium sized two man trapeze boat - fairly healthy generally
They are fairly useful in most breezes and acre indeed one of the few trapeze boats that can be sailed at smaller venues Messing about with an asymmetric would certainly kill it off - if you wanted an asymmetric why would you simply not go for a boat that was designed with it already ? |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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The guys who design the best assy boats also sailed and sailed sym boats.
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