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    Posted: 02 Nov 15 at 11:37am
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ok so appreciate is a strong word, I know £1400 had a lot more worth in 1990 than today. It has had a new trolley, sails and XD kit but my point is that after 25 years of use it hasn't lost anything.

shows that for all the sh*t we can all on occasion sling at it, the Laser is still one of the best boats for your average weekend warrior to purchase...  Confused


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I think its a mistake to think about investment in boats (or any other kind of boy's toy). Spend only what you can afford, write it off, and be pleasantly surprised if you get anything back.
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wish I could agree, but I tend to take a halfway house approach - I don't write off the total value, but I do accept a certain level of depreciation.  

My comfort factor is about a grand a year on a boat... some classes have proved better, some worse; but that's where I'm at with the level of depreciation I tolerate without getting jittery.    
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Originally posted by JimC

I think its a mistake to think about investment in boats (or any other kind of boy's toy). Spend only what you can afford, write it off, and be pleasantly surprised if you get anything back.


everything is an investment these days in my opinion, many people can't afford to lose too much on leisure activities. This Laser is an example where many years of pleasure can be had for very little expense
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Does this example mean you should be able to get a Laser for free on PCP? ;-)
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Originally posted by turnturtle



shows that for all the sh*t we can all on occasion sling at it, the Laser is still one of the best boats for your average weekend warrior to purchase...  Confused


And it is/was a very profitable boat for the manufacturer.  

With regard to manufacturing, the Laser is a masterclass in design.  Probably the Topper and the newer rotomoulds are close.  Bu I think the Topper mould was very, very expensive at the time, so, what the long term return was, I don't know.     Certainly, Laser never faced these up front tooling costs.
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As I recall the Topper mould was subsidised as a technology demonstration.
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Originally posted by JimC

As I recall the Topper mould was subsidised as a technology demonstration.

Plus they had a tie up with the OU I seem to recall as I saw a couple of programs where they heavily featured the Topper design and tooling.
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The moulds cost £250k in the mid 1970's, funded by 50/50 by Dunhill Boats (who were owned by Guinness) and the National Research and Development Council.

Boats were originally moulded by ICI, as it was ICI who wanted a product to demonstrate to the automotive industry that their Polypropylene could be used in very large mouldings.

I think I remember it being featured on Tomorrow's World at the time, showing how the electric current passing through the wire fused the hull and deck together.

Not bad, 50,000 boats from the same mould !

39 years of dinghy racing and still waiting to peak.
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It's always seemed interesting that such a high-tech approach to manufacturing can lead to a boat that is often seen as low-tech.
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