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    Posted: 03 Feb 15 at 5:01pm
I've never been described as a "very, very competent sailor and really well respected" before (or maybe they were referring to the retired Tim Davison!). But thank you, if you meant me!
 
But on this basis of these posts, perhaps our next book should be on onions (since we know quite a bit about them apparently!).
 
However, more seriously, without wishing to be commercial, Nick Craig's new book talks quite a bit about spotting windshifts and not using a burgee - launched at the Dinghy Show.
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I did Jeremy, and you are.

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Hmm Interesting Nick Craig now spotting that burgees are next to useless, I've never had one, I think anything you have to look at in the boat is counter productive, although it was quite interesting having someone classically trained calling the jib tel tales in the Alto, that is a bitch to buttsense shifts with, nothing like as sensitive as the EPS, in fact the only other boat I've sailed that comes close is the D Zero, that is a Shift Hunting Weapon.

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Maybe burgees are like nappies? When you start out, you need them, and can't cope without them.

But as you mature, you find you are better off without them...

(I still use a burgee and would make a right mess without one!)
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On a single sailed boat I like a little hawk to give me clues going down wind, especially when I've got myself in some sort of pickle, but I use the main tell tales far more. In a 2 sailed boat, the telltales on the jib are the vital thing to have.

Look forward to picking up a copy of Nick Craig's book at the show.
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I hope he writes better than he speaks, my chum fell asleep and crashed off his chair much to everyone's amusement during one of his 'chats' to the lead miners.
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Originally posted by iGRF

I hope he writes better than he speaks, my chum fell asleep and crashed off his chair much to everyone's amusement during one of his 'chats' to the lead miners.


You chum been at the bar for a while before the talk began?
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I had a leg-pull of Nick when I heard he was going in to competition with me on the authoring front - his reply was "very different audience"
Great book for Club Sailors here
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Both aiming at sailors, surely, and ones who are wanting to improve, whether the improvement is from back of fleet to middle, or middle to nearer the front. Big overlap, I'd say. Any book that can get you looking at things in a slightly different way is good, whatever the "level" it is aimed at.
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Years of pond sailing mean that I usually spot shifts with the tell tales, that or the sail backing and the boat falling on top of me... (you get right good at snap tacking, I'll tell you...). I tend to use the burgee as a 'macro' sort of thing rather than for wind shift spottage. Especially in a drifter when no one else has noticed that what started as a beat is now a run LOL
(Actually I wish I was joking about that...)
Of course if you are really bored a hawk set just above boom level allows for games by the lee spent trying to make the hawk go round and round and round in circles...
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