big pico please

   no multihulls allowed here!

I can't help but think that an adult sized genuine 'beach' boat ie rugged, easy to rig etc would do well both in training and holiday centres.

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winging it Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958	Post Options Post Reply Quote winging it Report Post Quote Reply Topic: big pico please Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 6:46pm
	no multihulls allowed here! I can't help but think that an adult sized genuine 'beach' boat ie rugged, easy to rig etc would do well both in training and holiday centres.
	the same, but different...

patj Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Jul 04 Location: Wiltshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 643	Post Options Post Reply Quote patj Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 8:46pm
	One of our club members has a Hartley 12 and apart from adjustments needed to the full length top batten it goes ok and he is no lightweight. Has choice of versions - either two mast positions or the assy kite. I reckon it would make quite a good training boat. Edited by patj - 12 Oct 13 at 8:47pm

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	Is the Hartley 12 the one that looks like it has a piece of kitchen worksurface for a thwart?
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winging it Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958	Post Options Post Reply Quote winging it Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 9:15pm
	that is a good call Pat. I saw some of these last year whilst collecting new kestrel masts. Might fit the bill quite nicely.
	the same, but different...

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:28pm
	still seems to me that the H12 has the exact same issues as the Q'ba- the larger (than a pico) sail being battened, not roll up?
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Bootscooter Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 15 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1094	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bootscooter Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:32pm
	Sounds to me that what's required is a RotoSolo with a non-fully battened sail.

iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:39pm
	There was some new boat turned up down the lake wednesday last, I think it was something from the Topper Tupperware range, it looked the part, but as usual with Tupperware, the performance didn't stack up. I wish i could remember what it was called. Vibe, it might be that one. Edited by iGRF - 12 Oct 13 at 10:42pm
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 13 at 3:59am
	The general problem I think is that thermoplastic construction doesn't deem to scale well, and boats much bigger than Feva/Pico are too heavy wnd too flexible. Need a new tech advance.

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	Continuous reinforced thermoplastic. Glass cloth with polypropylene co-mingled, so it is like a prepreg. Heat it up to melt the pp and cool to set. Light, strong, impact resistant and recyclable.

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 13 at 8:27am
	Peaky: problem there is that you're back to the labour intensive world of hand lay up. Plenty of thermoplastic based pre-pregs available, with all sorts of fibre reinforcement (even themoplastic reinforcements). But you lose, for manufacturers, one of the key process advantages of rotomolding.
	-_ Al