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    Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:32am
Russ - will you guys be bringing the D1 to the FOM for 'quick tests' again?
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Originally posted by Ruscoe

Originally posted by Rupert

Having sailed the 100 and the Vareo, I'd love a go in the D1, but I'm really not in the market to buy one, so wouldn't want to be wasting anyone's time. How would I go about it, Russ?

Rupert, its no problems at all.  in fact i think you are the easiest person of all to cater for.  You just need to drive 2.5 miles from White Friars to South Cerney SC.  Which is where the Demo boat is currently stored.  Give me a bit of notice as i will rarely be there and i think the demo boat may sell over the next few days, but we have a new one available or one of the other 2 will let you have another go.


I'd not put 2 and 2 together there! I shall find some free dates and see if we can match one up.

Is one coming across to Whitefriars for Federation day on Saturday?
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Originally posted by Neptune

Originally posted by Ruscoe

I dunno, We seem to go pretty well upwind with our wings.  

Not trying to be difficult but the D1 has nearly as much sail as the Musto, and is about the same width isn't it.  Anything about 12 knots and i wish i had a little more leverage in my Musto!

Thats not what you said Neptune you quite clearly named the D1 not the Astom

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Originally posted by Ruscoe


Originally posted by Neptune

I don't struggle just a dig at all these hiking boats that claim to go like the proverbial waste of a shovel...... if you want to go fast you need leverage also or that power is just wasted

Well its not the D1 that started it so have a dig at someone else!  We are the only one with the leverage!  So pick on a narrower boat that claims to be faster.


Was more aimed at all these new boat claims as that was this thread is about :-)
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Originally posted by Rupert

Having sailed the 100 and the Vareo, I'd love a go in the D1, but I'm really not in the market to buy one, so wouldn't want to be wasting anyone's time. How would I go about it, Russ?

Rupert, its no problems at all.  in fact i think you are the easiest person of all to cater for.  You just need to drive 2.5 miles from White Friars to South Cerney SC.  Which is where the Demo boat is currently stored.  Give me a bit of notice as i will rarely be there and i think the demo boat may sell over the next few days, but we have a new one available or one of the other 2 will let you have another go.

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Originally posted by Neptune

I don't struggle just a dig at all these hiking boats that claim to go like the proverbial waste of a shovel...... if you want to go fast you need leverage also or that power is just wasted

Well its not the D1 that started it so have a dig at someone else!  We are the only one with the leverage!  So pick on a narrower boat that claims to be faster.

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Originally posted by Rupert

Having sailed the 100 and the Vareo, I'd love a go in the D1, but I'm really not in the market to buy one, so wouldn't want to be wasting anyone's time. How would I go about it, Russ?



Aren't you just down the road from us Rupert? I'd say it'd be fairly simple.....
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Having sailed the 100 and the Vareo, I'd love a go in the D1, but I'm really not in the market to buy one, so wouldn't want to be wasting anyone's time. How would I go about it, Russ?
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I don't struggle just a dig at all these hiking boats that claim to go like the proverbial waste of a shovel...... if you want to go fast you need leverage also or that power is just wasted
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Not difficult you just haven't looked at or understood how the rig works on a D1, remember we have an unstayed rig which works brilliantly for a start. At 12 Knots leverage would not be my problem, i would be starting to drop the track down further and cranking on Cunningham. The traveller is also a big help we can drop the track down and crank the main-sheet on.  The D1 is a powerful boat, but like it or not it works upwind and down.  You will however have to hike and hike hard but i have never sailed on and thought jeez i need to be a foot taller.  Its all about rig control.  So not sure why you struggle in the musto so much (or have i miss read)  

To be honest i have seen some pretty light sailors sail Mustos in loads more wind than 12 knots sailing very flat and very, very fast.  At no point did they look 'Over Canvassed'  Perhaps you should buy that DVD K16, it may help you learn how to de-power the musto better  Wink LOL

Anyway don't take my word for it, have a go in one.   

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