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    Posted: 23 May 13 at 3:51pm
Boats with a big sail out the front, which say "I'm going THAT way now" when a strong gust hits, are certainly more suitable for a nice large expanse of water like found at Eastbourne, than at a small puddle where"That way" is probably into the trees! I even found the bay at Minorca Sailing a little small and crowded at times with my lack of expertize in 100s and Vareos in a big wind.

Add in a race course with reaches that are too tight and runs where it is quicker not to put the kite up at all, and you end up with unhappy assy sailors. Just keep sailing it in the places that nature intended and you'll have a fantastic time with the boat. I suspect you already are.
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Hey Hanna I'm under 70kg and find the 8.4 OK.
I think the 7.4 would be a big reduction.
Stick with the 8.4 and hike loads!!!
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Originally posted by Rupert

Boats with a big sail out the front, which say "I'm going THAT way now" when a strong gust hits, are certainly more suitable for a nice large expanse of water like found at Eastbourne, than at a small puddle where"That way" is probably into the trees! I even found the bay at Minorca Sailing a little small and crowded at times with my lack of expertize in 100s and Vareos in a big wind.

Add in a race course with reaches that are too tight and runs where it is quicker not to put the kite up at all, and you end up with unhappy assy sailors. Just keep sailing it in the places that nature intended and you'll have a fantastic time with the boat. I suspect you already are.

knowing when not to hoist and how to maximise 'white sail' reaching speed is just as challenging and fun (for me anyhow) as blasting along under the kite.... OK, well not as much fun, but.... don't assume it's all just about going 2/3 sail blasting all the time, the upwind and cross-wind bits are good too
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Hi Hanna

Welcome and thanks for flushing out from the pondmonkey that he puts winding me up in the same category as grf-baiting. Find a gun and shoot me now. [yup, there is lots of banter here]

Ignore the forum tosh about a 100 not being sailable on ponds - I've been sailing mine on Frensham Pond week in, week out  for nearly 3 years and find it at least as much (albeit different) fun to racing on the circuit. But your place will be brill, particularly on the days when the beat is downtide and downwind is uptide.

Rest assured we will sort out the omission of the 7.2 from the recent rule change - it will be addressed PDQ I am sure. 

If you have a go in the 8.4, just make sure you max out the kicker upwind when you are overpowered and as James (pondmonkey) says, get at least a 4:1 on the cunno (8:1 is allowed) and pull the living daylights out of it. I lead both parts of the cunningham down one side of the boom as it gives far more travel to play with even if it looks a bit odd. (I'll take a pic and post it up when I can) Let both controls right off as you approach the ww mark tho and don't try and gybe with the vang on unless you want to check your slot gaskets. A key thing on gybes is making sure the boom is definitely coming over  (i use a gybing strop) but then get to the other side of the boat before the boom lands - and of course, speed is your friend.

If you are one-sail reaching, the bow likes to bury itself (I've had the whole foredeck under water even on Frensham in a huge gust) so sit as far back as you can get. With the kite up, this is seldom an issue, waves notwithstanding. The boat is also far more saleable on a one-sail reach with the plate half up, whereas with kite up the board needs to stay in place or you will get lee helm which is slow.

Don't feel shy to ask anything here or on the class forum - but you will get more sense on the latter, more filter-requiring banter here.

The next UK event is the Sprints at Rutland in mid June - lots of short races, so good boat handling practice. And there is another 7.2 at Gurnard on the IoW. We'd love to see you there or at the Nats at HISC. The craic at 100 events is good fun - I think it may be we still all have that pioneering feeling and some staying power (unlike a couple of high profile contributors here who kept the 100s for about 25 minutes)
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Thanks for all the friendly replies guys. I feel all warm and fuzzy... or maybe that's just the vino?

I'm just about happy with the 7.4 (why do most people keep saying 7.2? I'm 99% sure it's 7.4 but now I'm doubting it) in a F3 so when I'm out in it in a F4 then I think I'll switch to the 8.4 for F1-2 (although I hate F1s as they're dull as tea with my granny). Good to know others of my weight range are fine with the 8.4... unfortunately my ability range, i.e. bottom of the pile, hinders me from being too keen to unfurl it. 

That pic looks how I feel most times I'm out on the 100... although I did manage my first ever dry capsize last weekend which made me very happy indeed. I know, doesn't sound like much to you guys but for me it was a pretty big deal! (The sea is still pretty chilly right now). 

I'll look up the book as well, thanks. Just reading 'Wind Strategy' or something like that right now. Wish I'd paid more attention at school. And yes, I'm the Hanna that commented on YouTube... not many Hanna's missing an H, let alone commenting on 100s!

Pond sailing and related issues make sense now. I'd not really thought too much about it. Trees and banks do sound very annoying... but equally so is not being able to physically launch the boat due to the crashing waves against the beach. Not that you'd really want to sail in that anyway. Not sure about this reaching lark? Isn't that for triangle (trapezoid?) courses? I've only ever sailed ww/lw courses (sausage) so beats/runs - am I being spoilt again? 

So, this kicker and cunningham you all talk of... hmmm... maybe I should look into that. ;) 4:1? 8:1? Damn, I remember someone talking about that in relation to 800 sailing... more reading to do... silly questions aplenty otherwise. Did I mention I only started sailing last July and the 100 is my first boat?

WTF is white sail? See, you said I could ask silly questions! Don't worry, I expect just as silly answers. Cake at the Nationals for the best reply. 

Gybing strop. Right. Yes. Does that mean I have to actually look and think about the boom as well as everything else when gybing? Damn. That may have to wait a while.

Given my total newness, and therefore ineptness, I'm limiting my attendance at Open meets this year. I've swapped my club duty for the 31 August though so should be able to attend the Nationals and will most likely go to Datchet at the end of the year. 

Right, I think that's enough of making a fool out of myself for now. Don't worry, I'm a quick study and seem to be picking up this boating lark relatively quickly - so I'm told anyway. Half the club think I'm nuts for getting the 100 and half think it's great and want a go. Given 95% thought I was nuts when I first got it I think I'm doing well on the conversion rate!
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7.2 - my bad. White sail = main/jib - sorry, I'm too old to adjust for the fact there are often now see-thru

Kicker and cunningham - you defo need to master these - if you get the sail controls set right, the boat is so much easier to sail, otherwise it's like golfists trying to putt with sand wedges or F1 drivers using tyres stolen from Sir B Wiggins

4:1 etc refers to the purchase/mechanical advantage - means less effort to pull tight, but more string required as a consequence

Kicker is actually a GNAV in the 100 - yanks say Vang, not kicking strap, and as our device pushes the boom down (rather than pulling as in a 200) GNAV is "vang' backwards.

Windyboarders who don't know better call the cunningham a downhaul

But the important thing is just keep up the enthusiasm - this is the ultimate sport
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Originally posted by Hanna

Not sure about this reaching lark? Isn't that for triangle (trapezoid?) courses? I've only ever sailed ww/lw courses (sausage) so beats/runs - am I being spoilt again? 

no, no not at all spoilt Hanna... you know that pinch of salt mentioned earlier, do feel free to rub it in to us poor pond folk who don't get windward/leeward courses  LOL

You sound like you've got a great set-up there for sailing RS100s, and remember don't worry about the nasty waves crashing in.  You can always just drag your boat to the water like this fella...


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James,

My German teacher always used to say "we mustn't mock the afflicted".

But I hadn't seem that before TY. Tongue
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

You sound like you've got a great set-up there for sailing RS100s, and remember don't worry about the nasty waves crashing in.  You can always just drag your boat to the water like this fella...

I wonder if the current owner of 123 is aware of this image? It would be akin to discovering pictures on the internet of your other half in a compromising position with an ex.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

 do feel free to rub it in to us poor pond folk who don't get windward/leeward courses  LOL

Some of us pond sailors get windward/ leewards courses  Big smile
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