The RS100 Owners Thread

   I use the 8.4 on the circuit - tried the 10.2 at QM last year - even in 12 knots it was a big mistake for my 80kg and 5'10"
At Frensham, I always use the 10.2 - I actually like the cut of the bigger sail more - and the extra mast height puts the rig out of the wind shadow of the weeds (that people keep wrongly calling trees)

This does mean I have to do a fair bit or rig swapping. Has anyone else had to shave the end-plug down? Mine got so so tight I struggled to hammer it in and out!

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fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: The RS100 Owners Thread Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 2:13pm
	I use the 8.4 on the circuit - tried the 10.2 at QM last year - even in 12 knots it was a big mistake for my 80kg and 5'10" At Frensham, I always use the 10.2 - I actually like the cut of the bigger sail more - and the extra mast height puts the rig out of the wind shadow of the weeds (that people keep wrongly calling trees) This does mean I have to do a fair bit or rig swapping. Has anyone else had to shave the end-plug down? Mine got so so tight I struggled to hammer it in and out!
	Great book for Club Sailors here

AndrewLB Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 16 Aug 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 109	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewLB Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 2:33pm
	Chris: he knows what he's doing with rig sizes but he needs encouragement to take the brave next step and join a club with salty water and waves. What's not to like? Great view from a great bar, cracking food (pre & post sailing) and no trees...
	RS100 227 (10.2)

fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 2:39pm
	and sailing against giants with big rigs somewhere with bankrupting subs and fees...
	Great book for Club Sailors here

AlexM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlexM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 2:48pm
	Need southern wage's to sail there ;) It's why me and Greg didn't make it to the open event, B&B prices as much as a holiday to Spain

marke Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Jun 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211	Post Options Post Reply Quote marke Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 2:58pm
	back to Nick's question When Chris is sailing at Starcross in the RS100-8.4 he averages 985 in the RTC trophy races against all other monohulls and 978 when sailing in the assymetric fleet on W/L courses. In the 10.2 he averages 982 in the trophy races. Not enough data to really read much into it other than the rig doesn't seem to make bugger all difference to Chris's performance - hangover status is probably the deciding factor. We have results for other RS100 sailors who tend to cluster in the 1000 - 1010 mark - sailing a combination of 8.4s and 10.2s. mark

ChrisC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 169	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChrisC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 4:24pm
	Mark, Thats really interesting - didn't realise you could do the reverse calculation and I was wondering how to do that myself - fantastic system you have put in place at SYC. Nick, Definitely not being disadvantaged in any way by using the 8.4 and achieving very consistent results across a range of conditions: http://www.starcrossyc.org.uk/race_results/series/AUTUMN11.htm Originally I really liked the feeling of the 'grunt' of the 10.2 but (after 18 months !) found I was sailing it pretty much fully de-powered in all conditions and was effectively dragging around 2 msq of cloth that I wasn't really using. The big decider for me was at Weymouth where I found that I was having to pinch to feather the rig and in the short steep waves I was parking up but unable to sail free as i was then getting blown over. Previously I hadn't suffered this despite using the 10.2 in top-end conditions (Parkstone / Bruinesse) I think because the water was flatter. I am still having to work very hard with the 8.4 even in fairly moderate conditions, which I like. I have a video snippet from the training at Datchet last year in about 5k of wind and very flat water where Andrew is thundering up on me just sat on the side and I am hiking my ass-off going 10 degrees higher (but slowly) and clearly very overpowered despite having all controls on max ! I reckon the change over is between 90kg. The feel of the rigs is different but the other big advantage with the 8.4, for me anyway, is that it is a lot more forgiving on the gybing and this gives me a lot more confidence going for the inside overlap / gybe-drop than on the 10.2 where I would inevitably take a swim or have to tack around. What is fantastic is that with the same boat but simply choosing the correct rig to suit we have very competitive 'nip-and-tuck' racing between such a wide range of sailor rates. I don't see that in many other classes. Cheers Chris Edited by ChrisC - 19 Jan 12 at 5:05pm
	Not now Kato (you fewl) ! RS100 421 (8.4) Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208 Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)

ChrisC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 169	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChrisC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 4:55pm
	Nick, Have been sailing off 998 at Starcross and at Paignton, which I think is fair. This season Starcross are using a locally adjusted PY system, which I think is based on past results and comparison with the Sailjuice ratings - 100's will be sailing off 1003 - which means might not have to hike so hard !! We had a hum-dinger of a race at Paignton Sailing Club on Boxing Day - Massive course , flat water and a nice 10 to 15k breeze BUT on an Olympic (Triangle / Sausage) course. All three of us were able to really mix it with a competitive Fireball and 600 fleet although they were fully trapezing - what we lost upwind we recovered on the running leg. http://www.paigntonsailingclub.com/results/2011/special/2011_Special_Christmas%20Regatta%202011-12.html#r3fast Fantastic racing despite Steve nursing a bad back and Neil has only just got his boat. Chris Edited by ChrisC - 19 Jan 12 at 4:56pm
	Not now Kato (you fewl) ! RS100 421 (8.4) Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208 Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)

Neptune Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314	Post Options Post Reply Quote Neptune Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 5:00pm
	Steve's bad back must be the longest running injury in sport!
	Musto Skiff and Solo sailor

ChrisC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 169	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChrisC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 5:16pm
	I think he's has got a reasonable excuse - pretty sure he was Fireball National and European Champion (with Nigel B) when I first met him - and that was 30 years ago and a LOT of miles on the water at a very high level since then ! Makes my back twinge just thinking about it and I have only been sailing a hiking boat for just under two years now. You should think yourselves lucky he's sailing a 100 as I do recall he wasn't too bad in a 600 !!!!!! Edited by ChrisC - 19 Jan 12 at 6:26pm
	Not now Kato (you fewl) ! RS100 421 (8.4) Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208 Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)

Contender443 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211	Post Options Post Reply Quote Contender443 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jan 12 at 9:40am
	I sail a 10.2 and race regularily against a 8.4 and we have some pretty level racing. However due to some marathon training I am losing some weight and hope to get below 90kg. So should I consider the 8.4 rig. I do struggle upwind in waves and in a blow so interesting to hear that the smaller rig may be an advantage. Does it also mean you can sail a tighter reach? We do a lot of triangle/sausage and trapezoid courses at our club. Finally any tips on gybing without the kite? This has caused me more capsizes than anything. Perhaps I should get round to fitting that gybing strop.
	Bonnie Lass Contender 1764