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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Rupert ...
Glad you enjoyed it - pity there was not much breeze. Come back again when conditions are a bit more lively and hold on ... ! It can be very quick indeed. Mike L. PS - We may have a couple of Icons at Datchet in 2 weeks ... |
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sandgrounder ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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Venue for 2014 Nationals and anticipated number of entries?
Thanks
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Sandgrounder
I think we know where you are coming from.... perfectly reasonable to ask anyway of course. The CA has just formed, has affiliated to the RYA, and will be exhibiting in its own right at the 2014 Dinghy show ... it is up to them when and where they run an initial Nationals. I'll speculate though and say it will possibly be towards the end of 2014 and will be attended by about 10 boats... The project is not backed by a relatively high marketing spend .. we put the available money in the product itself ... and we do not expect 'impressive' numbers quickly .. or an equally quick fall back soon afterwards when the 'next best thing' comes along either. The class will prosper long term on the input of the owners and that 'old fashioned' enthusiasm that can still be found out there if you look hard. This is what historically was critical in growing and maintaining the longer lasting classes. So do you want to borrow one and join in as well ? ![]() Mike L. Edited by blaze720 - 02 Dec 13 at 10:33am |
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sandgrounder ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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"we"?
"where you are coming from"? As someone who has spent a lot of time racing 2-handed 2-sail hiking boats I'm genuinely interested in the class, though not the paranoia.
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Sandgrounder
Your query was always reasonable ... and/but got a humerous responce. This forum, like many others, does have a style of its own. Many of the FOM types frequently do go out of their way to wind each other up .. and just about anyone else for that matter. We are all 'fair game' here .... ![]() I think something got lost in translation there perhaps ? You would be very welcome if you ever did want to try an Icon. Mike L. |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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could the icon jib realistically be fitted with self-tacking gear?
cheers
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Yellowwelly
It would not be impossible at all but the boat is not designed for it and no trials /tests have been performed ... I use a crew myself most of the time but just occasionally will single-hand one if it is very light. '03' like all other Icons is fitted with track mounted jib sheet Harken ratchet blocks on the cockpit floor and I have a pair of 'opposite side' cleats on 03 just behind the shrouds and a continuous jibsheet. Single handed tacking just takes a bit of planning and practice to get tight - but it is not difficult. Many boats now have jib cleats on the central spine just in front of the plate case - more conventional and might be easier. The possible interactions between the dangly pole and a self tacking set up would also need to be thought through carefully. It might be something GRF tries if he does go for asymetric in his project as that might be more practical - I'm assuming with a spinnaker / trapeze he would not need/want a dangly pole. Mike L. |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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cheers Mike,
Second question- is the mast okay to take a single trap wire? (Assuming it was customised/reinforced at the attachment points) YW
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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I'm not at all convinced that a self tacking jib and a dangly pole interact well.
With a self tacking jib a better match is probably the setup seen on several recent canoes where a spar on the foot of the jib is extended some way past the luff, and then a control line is run from the end of the spar up to the mast at around jib halyard height as a sort of kicking strap for the jib. |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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I'd tend to gut instinct in line with Jim there... keep it simple and my thoughts behind this would be to dump the pole tbh.... goose winging ought to be a very light wind affair (I used to do it singlehanded in a 12 in light winds, using a loose cut down oppy sprit if I could get forward to put it on, if not, sail without the pole) But it usually paid to sail higher angles in any sort of breeze one up.
Mike- are there any public fotos of the central spine jib sheeting arrangements? Edited by yellowwelly - 02 Dec 13 at 11:44am |
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