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    Posted: 02 May 11 at 1:11pm
Hi Keith, you can gain a little more travel on the cunningham by effectively pre tensioning as you tie it off during rigging, so you`re not wasting the travel on the purchase to take up slack. I`m not catching on the mouth of the boom as I release, might need to release cunningham before vang or vice versa.
Thanks for the encouragment to pull on it harder Alex, perhaps you`ve had more practise at that.
 
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Sorry if this has previously been asked but how do get back into the boat in a F5 from the water?

Yesterday I was able to right the boat from a capsize from the board fairly easily and get back in by going in front of the wing.
 
My problem was following a full inversion. The boat would continue righting before I had chance to get back onto the board. I then stuggled to get back on board between the shroud and wing. If I went to the back of the boat it would bear away and capsize again. 
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Originally posted by Contender443

Sorry if this has previously been asked but how do get back into the boat in a F5 from the water?

Yesterday I was able to right the boat from a capsize from the board fairly easily and get back in by going in front of the wing.
 
My problem was following a full inversion. The boat would continue righting before I had chance to get back onto the board. I then stuggled to get back on board between the shroud and wing. If I went to the back of the boat it would bear away and capsize again. 
LOL Welcome to *our world  LOL 

Bloody maddening isn't it?

So to be as helpful as I can, I found the best way is to right the boat the wrong way (i.e. rig upwind) so you know i'ts going to come right over unless you're quick to dive into the bottom of the boat as it flips up, it's momentum helps you clear the side and land (usually in a degree of pain) right in the middle and you're weight in the bottom is usually enough to stop it flipping right on over, even better if you can clamber up the other side a bit, it really is a bitch if you get separated from it.

Dry capsizes are O.K. and you do get the hang of reacting quickly to stop going in, if you're actually on the centreboard it's not a problem. The problem comes if you become ditched in the water, the mere act of getting on the centreboard is enough to right the boat but you never quite make it into the boat and end up pulling the boat over on top of you.

There are a lot of smart alec 'just water start it as you would a windsurfer' quotes from none coastal sailors who never quite appreciate what sailing on the sea is all about and the attacking from the stern is useless in the kind of breeze you describe, unless you've got a rescue boat holding the nose into wind.

It's not easy and I've had to have rescue boat assistance quite often, but I can get it up now doing what I described and using that hold onto the wire skiff method is quite handy if you can ever get it into that position.

Not an easy boat on South Coast chop in a breeze, (they never tell you that in the instructions do they Wink), but persevere, you'll get it, if you can sail a Contender you'll have what's necessary..

* South Coast offshore sailors of RS100's


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have you done the variant where as you try to work your way round to the stern to climb back in the boat bears away and then the shockcord goes creak, ping, ping, ping and you realise that the harder you hang on to it the worse it is going to get, and then it of course it goes snap and you have to swim like mad to catch the boat LOL - all good fun
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Originally posted by asterix

have you done the variant where as you try to work your way round to the stern to climb back in the boat bears away and then the shockcord goes creak, ping, ping, ping and you realise that the harder you hang on to it the worse it is going to get, and then it of course it goes snap and you have to swim like mad to catch the boat LOL - all good fun
 
Asterix, don't you start encouraging him to break his boat! He still hasn't sold the Contender yet...
Mind you, it was quite funny to watch him drift past the start line backwards, fighting the wind and the waves and the tide and the boat. Busy boy, he was!
 
A couple of weeks ago, I was allowed to sail the 100 in a force Z to N (Zilch to Nought) and I really appreciated how well balanced the boat is. I'm sure Contender443 is going to stick with it and eventually learn to right it!


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Great open this weekend just gone at Northampton, with a real mix of conditions.  Saturday was light and Sunday was breeze on, so had a bit of everything. 19 boats and some VERY close racing with 2 points covering the top 4!!

Congratulations Chris for showing us the way and roll on this weekend in Holland!!
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Hi all
 
what is everyone using for their genny halyard?  I think standard issue is pre-stretched uncovered 4mm dyneema, but is anyone using covered dynema? or anything else?
 
I want to find something that runs through the blocks in the cockpit better.  My halyard has got less flexible that it was, and also sometimes ties knots in itself.
 
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Hi Dave,
 
I'm still using the standard halyard and in the beginning I got knoting in the rope.  However I just changed my style in hoisting and dropping the kite.. i.e. never wrap your hand around the halyard to get more grip and this seems to have worked for me.  The only thing I have changed in the system is the pulley at the back on the bungee cord, replaced it with a nylon ring (like a polo mint)
 
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Hi Alex
 
the issue I am getting is that immediately after hoisting the genny to the 'top' of the mast, the slack in the halyard dosen't run out easily because it kinks, twists or gets into knots either infront of the hoisting block or in front of the block on elastic at the back of the boat. 
 
I have tried all sorts of hoisting methods, probably none them too proficient, but I dont think that is the problem, and actually the hoist itself is really easy to do, so I don't need to pull hard at all or wrap the halyard round my hand (for me that is more relevant to the kicker!)
 
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Still using original halyard and never had any bother with it.
The boat has been very easy on all the ropes so far.....
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