Rs 800

  had  great  fun  reading the whole   thread in one go ! 

reply to  some comments  the  int 14 kite area is unlimited but the class rules state that  their must be reaching legs at major  events . this limits   the kite size  as if i'ts to big you end up white sailing down the  reach whilst  some guys  with smaller kites burn past you!  gybing boards the  technology has moved on  from GRF's comments  and    reading other forums  it was  specific  designed for the la  worlds  where the first beat  was a drag race. 

 you may need to spend loads to win a worlds in the 14  but that  has    always been thei case since it is a development class  BUT a well sailed older boat will  always do well   as  the boats  are   very hard to sail and a  good start and keeping  the  boat upright etc etc will always beat the latest tech.

I bought a sorted 2nd hand   morrision11  rather than a new b4    as I worked   out time on the water was more  important than the latest hull  design.   I did  crap  at the nats  I  bought  the boat for but  that was for other reasons.  

As for the  original  topic.  the 800 does what it says   good boat    especially  since they have  tweaked  the sat up ie  listened to the sailors about set up and  easy to  sail but  still    tweaky enough to sail well.

I only   raced them  a couple of times  but    i  always felt i was a bit heavy for  them   which  made the 14 my better choice.

  the 49er  never  sailed it enough  rocket ship upwind  but  tricky kite down  wind.

personally 

sub 140 kg  twin  wire  go for  the 800 good events  but slowest out the 3

120-160   49er  pro events but  chance to do  more international events  tricky to sail in waves

140 kg plus  14  south coast bias  for fleet racing but  especially since the  t foil came in it felt     definetly the  nicest boat to sail up wind.

ps  no comment on cherubs as i've   never sailed one   as at 85-90 kilos i fell I'm a  bit big!

If the bare hull weight is 78 kg, you’re saying that there is only 7-12 kg with everything else on the boat? I think 22kg of rigging is pretty good going I would think. New Cherubs are around 70kg all up. It will be interesting to see how the small fleet of boats that are being built at the moment turn out weigh wise.