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    Posted: 20 Feb 10 at 11:13pm
Originally posted by ellistine

Originally posted by ellistine

Originally posted by FireballNeil

Umm
downhaul
being hooked in for
super fast rigging?


Ooh I like that idea. I was about to place an order with
Sailboats. I might just add one of them!


Ordered! Also added a second 16mm block to up the
purchase some.

Definitely not class legal on a 4K but I find myself
struggling (to the point of giving up) to keep it totally
class legal.


Do you also find that the main sheet load drastically increases when the
4k starts to plane? If so, it might have something to do with an S-shaped
drag-curve...
Pass the skiff, man!
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Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Originally posted by ellistine

Originally posted by ellistine


Originally posted by FireballNeil

Umm
downhaul
being hooked in for
super fast rigging?


Ooh I like that idea. I was about to place an order with
Sailboats. I might just add one of them!


Ordered! Also added a second 16mm block to up the
purchase some.

Definitely not class legal on a 4K but I find myself
struggling (to the point of giving up) to keep it totally
class legal.


Do you also find that the main sheet load drastically increases when the
4k starts to plane? If so, it might have something to do with an S-shaped
drag-curve...


Erm...... upwind when it's really breezy yeah it has quite high main loads
but that's got bugger all to do with it planing. Every boat there is gets
higher mainloads in bigger breeze. Going downwind when it's really
planing, no there isn't much main load at all which makes complete sense
seeming as with the boat accelerating the load in the rig decreases.

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Originally posted by Doug.H

Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Originally posted by ellistine


Originally posted by ellistine


Originally posted by FireballNeil

Umm
downhaul
being hooked in for
super fast rigging?


Ooh I like that idea. I was about to place an order with
Sailboats. I might just add one of them!


Ordered! Also added a second 16mm block to up the
purchase some.

Definitely not class legal on a 4K but I find myself
struggling (to the point of giving up) to keep it totally
class legal.


Do you also find that the main sheet load drastically increases when the
4k starts to plane? If so, it might have something to do with an S-shaped
drag-curve...


Erm...... upwind when it's really breezy yeah it has quite high main loads
but that's got bugger all to do with it planing. Every boat there is gets
higher mainloads in bigger breeze. Going downwind when it's really
planing, no there isn't much main load at all which makes complete sense
seeming as with the boat accelerating the load in the rig decreases.

I meant in marginal conditions, when you alternate between planing and
squatting, but I take it you meant no.
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Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Originally posted by ellistine


Originally posted by ellistine

Originally posted by FireballNeil

Umm
downhaul
being hooked in for
super fast rigging?


Ooh I like that idea. I was about to place an order with
Sailboats. I might just add one of them!


Ordered! Also added a second 16mm block to up the
purchase some.

Definitely not class legal on a 4K but I find myself
struggling (to the point of giving up) to keep it totally
class legal.


Do you also find that the main sheet load drastically
increases when the
4k starts to plane? If so, it might have something to do
with an S-shaped
drag-curve...


Dunno yet. Only sailed it once so far. Done lots of
fiddling with it though!
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Originally posted by Slippery Jim


I meant in marginal conditions, when you alternate between planing and
squatting, but I take it you meant no.


Indeed I do. The 4000 has annoyingly high main loads most of the time
(assuming we're running a 4:1, though I've plenty of nancy boys with 5:1
AND a cleat..... disgraceful!). Massacring the kicker is pretty standard but
then it is with most fully battened mains I would have thought (though
not so much the 200/400).

Anyways this is all far too far away from the 100.....how to link it all in?

So boys, what's the main load on the 100 like?

There we go, saved!
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You can keep your drag curves, 59ers and 4000s! The mainsheet loads should in theory be similar or slightly lighter than a laser im guessing. Lighther perhaps because the kicker will be more effective without a pathetic aluminium bendy boom.  The sheet loads will all depend on whether it turns out to be faster to sail the boat with lots of kicker or not.  I have not managed to see whether they have bothered with ratchets on the kite sheets, the blocks look small in all the photos but that doesnt mean they arent ratchets and all the close up shots seem to conveniently cover or not show the blocks!  I know someone on here knows the answer!
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Yep, according to one of Nick's blogs they decided on ratchets for the spinny sheets. However the one guy we all know with an actual boat will be able to tell us for sure. I'll be fitting them anyway, if they're not standard.

At my age I was thinking about a Lewmar power pack and full hydraulics/ powered winches, kicker, outhaul etc and maybe the keel from a K1 ..... but maybe too heavy????

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The RS100 does come with ratchet blocks for the spinnaker sheets.
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Originally posted by laser193713

You can keep your drag curves, 59ers and 4000s!
The mainsheet loads should in theory be similar or slightly lighter than a
laser im guessing. Lighther perhaps because the kicker will be more
effective without a pathetic aluminium bendy boom.  The sheet loads will
all depend on whether it turns out to be faster to sail the boat with lots of
kicker or not.  I have not managed to see whether they have bothered
with ratchets on the kite sheets, the blocks look small in all the photos
but that doesnt mean they arent ratchets and all the close up shots seem
to conveniently cover or not show the blocks!  I know someone on here
knows the answer!


I want to keep my drag curve as it is anyway, for obvious reasons! As
far as I can remember, the Laser5000 mainsheet loads increase very
suddenly coming onto the plane, since the drag curve is like that. The
loads on the 59er are about 1/2 that of a standard laser. As for ally
boom and its effectiveness and the use of the kicker, it all depends which
tool you use to change the sail profile etc. and this varies from boat to
boat. This has very little to do with my question though, since once you
īve got the sail apparently set right with the kicker or whatever you use,
my question still remains.

We also use Harken ratchets on the 59er spinnaker sheet, since the loads
are quite high.
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Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Originally posted by laser193713

You can keep your drag curves, 59ers and 4000s!
The mainsheet loads should in theory be similar or slightly lighter than a
laser im guessing. Lighther perhaps because the kicker will be more
effective without a pathetic aluminium bendy boom.  The sheet loads will
all depend on whether it turns out to be faster to sail the boat with lots of
kicker or not.  I have not managed to see whether they have bothered
with ratchets on the kite sheets, the blocks look small in all the photos
but that doesnt mean they arent ratchets and all the close up shots seem
to conveniently cover or not show the blocks!  I know someone on here
knows the answer!

I want to keep my drag curve as it is anyway, for obvious reasons! As
far as I can remember, the Laser5000 mainsheet loads increase very
suddenly coming onto the plane, since the drag curve is like that. The
loads on the 59er are about 1/2 that of a standard laser. As for ally
boom and its effectiveness and the use of the kicker, it all depends which
tool you use to change the sail profile etc. and this varies from boat to
boat. This has very little to do with my question though, since once you
īve got the sail apparently set right with the kicker or whatever you use,
my question still remains.

We also use Harken ratchets on the 59er spinnaker sheet, since the loads
are quite high.

What i meant was the answer to the mainsheet loads question has a lot of variables, depending mainly on kicker tension and wind strength. So there is no real answer.

And high kite loads even with a linear drag curve  

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