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    Posted: 02 Jun 12 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by tickler

Sod off! What is all this! Total cost of boat about twenty quid and you want me to spend vast sums of money on Norths, Edge or P&B. Now Junior Fuller might be up for that (when he gets his) but little old 70 kilo me may put another purchase on the cunningham or stick a Harken label on to make me look cool.....this boat has tuffnel on it and I made a new mast gate out of a nylon (used) breadboard!

did it still have the crumbs on it?

nothing wrong with what you have done there Tickler, damn cheap sailing and why not, bet you enjoy it and thats what its all about, even if it is in an old tub like a Slowlo
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Who knows when you may wish to knock up a sandwich when out there?
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SmileI'd take one at that price. It'd getmelut on the water at least, and I think it'd be fun, even if it won't be on the edge stuff Smile
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Well the whole concept of the cvrda has hit mainstream. We all have old boats which cost very little or nothing.
As i said in another thread Holt must have got something right. The Solo was designed as the single hander for Wraysbury lake which Jack Holt helped to found.
A date for your diary Tickler 7th /8th July bring your Solo and join in the fun. New Holt boats welcome as well.
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All this news does, other than sadden me of ticklers soon to be demise, is to confirm the fact that there is no 'solution' to the question of a single hander that can do it all and be capable of being sailed by someone of considerable experience but no time to practise dealing with someones design night mare of a 'technical' boat.
The second point and far more relevant is that the parsimonious (that means tight to all you cherub wallers) nature of your average dinghyist is perpetuating this state and until they round you all up, ship you all out to Switzerland to do the 'decent' thing and have a bloody great bonfire of all your dross, the sport will forever languish right up there with crown green bowls in adult adventure seeking male appeal.

I'm truly sorry Tickler that its come to this for you, catching a disease like soloitus must be terrible especially when you don't realise just how debilitating it will become, I just hope some of the younger elements here can be spared. You are after all setting a very bad example, I hope 'the boy' gives you a good verbal  kicking, is he very ashamed?
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Now, "The Boy" has a very liberal attitude to all things sailing, if he can win in it he will sail it. He did cast a perfunctory glance over my new aquasition and dismissed it because its level of decrepiude and magnificent display of Tuffnel would probably preclude it from winning anything (couple that with my level of decrepitude and marked lack of tuft) precludes me from even significant progress.

Now yesterday was a wild and unpleasant day. The lad chose to sail a borrowed Supernova in which he won. I however was on rescue duty and spent the day freezing to death in the rib whilst casting longing glances at the sleek and magnificent form of my new stallion.

I await progress reports on EPS sailing, my Solo has wide and comfortable side decks whearas your EPS has cheeky little extensions on which to perch your pert little bottom.

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Originally posted by G.R.F.

All this news does, other than sadden me of ticklers soon to be demise, is to confirm the fact that there is no 'solution' to the question of a single hander that can do it all and be capable of being sailed by someone of considerable experience but no time to practise dealing with someones design night mare of a 'technical' boat.
The second point and far more relevant is that the parsimonious (that means tight to all you cherub wallers) nature of your average dinghyist is perpetuating this state and until they round you all up, ship you all out to Switzerland to do the 'decent' thing and have a bloody great bonfire of all your dross, the sport will forever languish right up there with crown green bowls in adult adventure seeking male appeal.

I'm truly sorry Tickler that its come to this for you, catching a disease like soloitus must be terrible especially when you don't realise just how debilitating it will become, I just hope some of the younger elements here can be spared. You are after all setting a very bad example, I hope 'the boy' gives you a good verbal  kicking, is he very ashamed?

Nope, you can't get a singlehanded dinghy that goes faster than all the rest while also being easier to sail than all the rest, just like you can't get a Formula 1 winner that takes the family for a comfortable holiday like a Winnebago, you can't get a winning waterski racing boat that is perfect for game fishing 100 miles off Zanzibar, you can't get a downhill bike that will beat a TT bike on a road, and you can't get a hybrid board that keeps up with a real longboard.

Not only that, you can't get a 200 quid London flat with extensive parklands in the kitchen, a tropical beach in the second bedroom, and alpine skiiing in the hall. There's a thing called the laws of physics that regrettably cannot be escaped. Tongue

Dinghy sailors may be tighter than windsurfers, but maybe that's why dinghy sailing didn't crash so badly. I remember many years ago meeting a certain Mr Pryde who said "windsurfers of today want quality and will pay whatever it costs" or words to that effect.

What got me then, and now, is that if people want "quality" in boards or boats, then they will also demand "quality" in their BMW, Audi or Porsche, and "quality" in their waterfront home and trendy city residence, and "quality" in their Biarritz ski lodge and their maxi yachts and their private schools, cocaine habits and mistresses/masters. But no one who follows the "people should pay top dollar for everything" maxim has ever explained how many people actually earn that sort of bucks, and how many people who do earn that cash actually get the time to go sailing. I know in my line, you either get big bucks OR have a life.... I know which one I chose, which is why I race on hulls that average about 30 years old, although having 4 boats, 3 racing bikes and 20 something windsurfers also helps. Embarrassed

Even dinghy sailing can be a damn expensive sport compared to what most people pay for fun, so to say that dinghy sailors are tightwads is surely to ignore reality. And on the other hand, the tiny minority of big yacht owners spend such vast amounts that even the most spendthrift of dinghy sailors looks like a street-corner beggar, so really who can claim to judge how much people should spend?




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'Nope, you can't get a singlehanded dinghy that goes faster than all the rest while also being easier to sail than all the rest'.
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Originally posted by haroosh

'Nope, you can't get a singlehanded dinghy that goes faster than all the rest while also being easier to sail than all the rest'.
There is but it's a Cat.
 
Is this the final realisation of what was stated at the outset ... yet GRF was encouraged on this fools erand by many on here ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tickler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 12 at 9:44am
I think the "fools errand" remark is a little unfair. The idea could have worked and with drastic alteration still could. Tackle the inversion problem and make it a double hander. CAD and technical bollock scratching are one thing but there is nothing like trying something out. L123456, sounds like a Laser number, hummmmm......enough said.
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