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Tornado_ALIVE ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
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Royal Sydney Flying Squardon (18 foot skiff club) have had a guy with a foil 18 for a few years now. Has L shaped foils at the wing tips which retract under the wings when coming to shore and has a rudder foil. As far as I know he is still developing and it has not taken off yet if the class will allow it anyway.
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Spot192 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Nov 04 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 833 |
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but only when you are watching it!! |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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The idea of a foiling 18 sailing at a venue with a bank to watch from (river, pond etc) scares the hell out of me |
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hurricane ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047 |
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tornados make rutland look small
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lifes to short to sail slow boats!
RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
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Creaky ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
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yeah would be pretty funny, but you imagine the speed you could get out of a hydrofoiling 18, imence, someone with too much mioney and not enough value for the life of there boat should try it.......or what about hydrofoiling the booat that has 15 people trapezing on it. 14 others to make mistakes!
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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As usual, there's nothing really new about foiling! Clearly if this thing can foil, then the weight of an 18 would be no barrier.
The website http://www.foils.org/gallery/early.htm gives lots of info and photos of some amazing contraptions from warships to human powered hydrofoils and also the fact that -
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Phil eltringham ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105 |
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The only real barrier to foiling is its top speed, ( the heavier the mass you need to lift the bigger the foils you need/faster take off speed will be). Most foil sections tend to cavitate at around 40 knots, beyond this it is more efficient to plane. Just like cavitating propellers, the sections that can operate at higher speeds do not work well at low speeds and so either need to be ventilated artificially or need massive power to get moving, however this would unlikely be a probley for the 18s as the air drag from the hull and rig at speeds of around 40 knots would likely prevent significantly higher speeds.
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FLAT IS FAST!
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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Once you get foiling then at the higher speeds that you get you have
the sails sheeted close to the centerline no matter which direction you
point. This means that you do not need the spiniker. If you do not need
the spiniker they why do you need a large crew? extra people only ad
extra weight.
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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sailor.jon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361 |
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is this because you would be traveling so fast the apparent wind is greater then the true wind speed? |
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