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    Posted: 02 Sep 15 at 7:46pm
Keep an eye on the reborn Rondar 'Icon' - different name and a kite, its going to be interesting. Maybe Mike will give us a little update on a new thread.

The aero grows on you the more you sail it. 
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Originally posted by craiggo


Several younger and lighter lads took the Aero 7 out and had the opposite view, finding it a challenge to keep moving in a chop upwind without the bow getting pushed off the wind, so I conclude that either different sailing styles or an extra 15kg makes a significant difference to how the boat sails upwind.

That could be, I definitely found it difficult to settle upwind, it's not a patch on the Solution or the Zero at my weight.
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Point Break quote time.

" maybe you just ain't doing it right Roach"

The youngsters in the 5's don't seem to be having a problem at the opens!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 15 at 9:19pm
At the Dinghy Show, I asked on the Minorca Sailing stand how their punters were liking the Aero, and got a surprise.  

The reply showed little enthusiasm for the Aero: in general, people still preferred the Laser.  They found the wide decks of the Laser made it easier to find a convenient seat downwind, they preferred its style of stability (maybe its slower reactions in roll?) and relative ease of righting.  

Clearly Minorca punters don't have the same jaundiced view of the Laser as Forumites ...
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Unsurprising. I would have expected the Laser to be a better beginners boat and the Aero to appeal more to a committed sailor.
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Guess that depends on whether there's someone else to race against in that Aero Jim!
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Originally posted by JimC

Unsurprising. I would have expected the Laser to be a better beginners boat and the Aero to appeal more to a committed sailor.


Surprises me a bit tbh. You should be able to be better in every way to the beginner or expert alike in one of these new boats. Stability should be tuned to some extent to provide similar twitchiness/challenge, but with the extra response and lack of inertia that you get with weight reduction and stiffness increases. I.e the experience should provide comfort (of the psychological, as well as ergonomic type) to the beginner sailor. Not to mention rudders, rigs etc that work. I heard that some  bloke said that getting back into the laser after a *ero was like getting onto an ironing board laden with bricks. I liken stepping back into the laser to sailing through treacle whilst on ether, sheathed in a whole body extra safe rough rider prophylactic. None of which are great analogies for beginner or expert alike.

I can appreciate that if you drive a caterham, say, your senses can be a bit assaulted by feedback from stuff which would be off putting to less confident sailors, but that is a very crude vehicle, and there are other analogies that can be made where modest performance improvements are made along with handling etc which is accessible and inspiring to beginner and pro alike.
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I gather Minorca Sailing now have a D-Zero as well as their Aeros, Dan.  Have you had any feedback?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 15 at 11:13pm
None for me - heard rumours that the punters and instructors liked both boats, as you might hope. There is a youtube vid of the two reaching about somewhere.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 15 at 8:26am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Rupert

Sounds a bit like number plates. Never got the reason for personal plates, either.


Vanity, pure vanity.


Not vanity in each case for personal sail numbers - in the Finn for example you may well have more than one hull and can switch rigs from one to another without the need to fiddle with sail numbers
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