Streaker PY number

Originally posted by RS400atC Originally posted by maxibuddah I..... The carbon/tin thing is a red herring though, they don't make that much difference, only allow the lightweight freaks in...... ...... I can't believe you think that!Weight in a dinghy is bad.Weight in the ends of a boat is worse.Weight aloft is many times worse still!Then there is generally a better gust response to be had with carbon masts.

can't believe it took that long for the response. anyway to quantify my statement..
Weight is bad, but shorn of a belly chainsaw I am the heaviest thing on my boat. For info about the rig then while you will get a better gust response it doesn't make that much difference to a heavier sailor in the fleet, hence the lightweights comment. My best result in the phantom nats was 9th a few years ago using a. M7 ali rig. Next equal best was a 10th, once with ali, once with carbon. All events ranged from light to heavy wind and I struggled no less than anyone else. I think that shows that if you are heavy enough to cope with the power then they aren't slower.

Originally posted by G.R.F. What has happened to this frikking software timing out early? I've just lost another detailed post which potentially blew open the logic for why this is probably happening. Basically with all the data available to boat designers from modern computer programmes it would be real easy to take an old kit boat class,  reform the hull, rocker/ waterline/ wetted surface to make it faster then build it in something modern and no-one would even know.  Are there Scrutineers/ Measurers active in these old classes? Active enough to spot what could happen? I doubt it.

I think if you won any decent events someone would eventually ask for a measurement cert if the boat did not look right. If there is no class association to issue class rules, you can do what you want, but you should expect the PY to change at the whim of the RO.
Some events are only open to dinghies with a published PY.
It should say in the NoR.
Otherwise you should be able to enter anything, even a one-off, and the RO should give you a PY.
Using his judgement presumably, and with the expectation that it will change if it appears badly wrong.

Originally posted by G.R.F.   Basically with all the data available to boat designers from modern computer programmes it would be real easy to take an old kit boat class,  reform the hull, rocker/ waterline/ wetted surface to make it faster then build it in something modern and no-one would even know.  Are there Scrutineers/ Measurers active in these old classes? Active enough to spot what could happen? I doubt it.

A class like this perhaps?



Yes, there are still people around sharp enough to spot a reshaping of such a boat - some are even considering it themselves!

On the subject of Streaker weights, take a look at this;

The Rooster mould was taken from an existing wooden boat, didn't someone say? Class associations do take care on this kind of thing - their aim is, after all, to keep the class together, not to kill it.