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    Posted: 18 Mar 16 at 9:30am
Originally posted by Null

I wouldn't buy a blaze because of ... the recent carbon rig switch... 

you wouldn't need to, an old polytechnic sh*tter is just as competitive.... allegedly.
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I don't think there is any class bashing going on in this thread. A little bit of too tight ruled SMOD criticism, yes, but no harm in that, it is just a view point.

Cirrus, would I be allowed to rig a Blaze pure aft main? I think it would work really well, right up to the point when I wanted the boat to gybe when I wanted it to, not when it felt like it!

I never did have a go in the Punk with the aft sheeting coming along the floor to the rachet block. Must have been well thought out to avoid the friction I can see could be a problem?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 16 at 8:27am
Why move traveller... Please go ahead, if we ever get to sail one Against each other, I will make a ham fisted attempt to make full use of that adjustable thingy, you on the other hand can wrestle the falls from mid boom, hoping the point loading doesn't snap it...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Null Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 16 at 7:52am
Rupert, agreed....always seems to revert back class bashing version 1.1.   Whilst I'm often classed as the instigator. I have not posted here all year. Just popped in today to see if I had missed anything. Doesn't look like I have to be honest
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 16 at 7:47am
Well, it was a fairly reasoned discussion up to that point!

While the free, how you like it sheeting arrangement didn't appear to be for the Zero (and there could be all sorts of design/structural issues why not, there are plenty of classes which do allow variety. You can even aft main a Solo if you really want to!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Null Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 16 at 7:38am
Because that's not how our rules are written. Have you even read though our rule set before branding the class as having a "straight jacket" conformity model? For an SMOD we have some pretty open rules. You may not like them, which is fine. Frankly if you don't, probably best you don't buy the boat Cirrus. But then again that's never going to happen is it given current/previous involvement with the blaze. We certainly wouldn't change rules around sheeting arrangements to encourage GRF to join the fleet! The nice thing about the diversity and different options in this market space means you have a choice. I wouldn't buy a blaze because of the scaffolding and the recent carbon rig switch... I guess some people like that....lucky for the Zero and the class growth is that more people seem to think we are doing something right rather than wrong.....


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Why not simply allow any sheeting arrangement - centre-main, aft sheeted, 'off the boom' or whatever.  Should make naff all squared difference in cost, is easily changed, and like toestrap details or tiller extensions etc is best left down to personal choice .... imo at least.   GRF can then go for whatever cats-cradle he likes .. and anyone else can follow their own way just as easily.  SMODs don't all have to follow a 100% straightjacket conformity model.    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 16 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Aft traveller would probably be the first thing to go if I ever got one. It was OK on the punk with that unique beneath the deck arrangement but having dispensed with that, I think I'd move straight to centre sheeting particularly as it felt gutless trying to pump it downwind to catch a bloody Aero 7 that was having it away from me.


thats called 'skill' and 'looking out of the boat at the breeze and sailing to the conditions" .... it's got feck all to do with what traveller arrangement or what other b*ll*cks you're looking at with your head in the boat fella :-)
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Aft traveller would probably be the first thing to go if I ever got one. It was OK on the punk with that unique beneath the deck arrangement but having dispensed with that, I think I'd move straight to centre sheeting particularly as it felt gutless trying to pump it downwind to catch a bloody Aero 7 that was having it away from me.


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Originally posted by Presuming Ed


Originally posted by Washy71

 
The "oversized" boom is a pure cost thing where they use one boom for both rigs. I'm guessing most would rather not buy a second carbon boom if they wanted to operate both rigs from time to time. Pretty sure the only spar change required is a different bottom section. We have one lady helm at our club who occasionally brings out her blue rig but she mostly sails with the grey rig, unless its pushing 20kts.

Aft traveller also needs the same boom as the full size rig. 


A very fair point!
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