R Speculation

Originally posted by Null   Really poor analogy Graeme, first of all a ford car is a passenger vehicle built to meet a families needs.  There are no racing regs designed to make it fair for everyone. However if you decided to race your ford, in say a Ford Fiesta cup, you would almost certainly have a more complexed set of rules to work too, be governed by.

Originally posted by kneewrecker My understanding from someone at NP, was that they had prototyped a new RS:X v2 - lighter, planes earlier and would have put a more modern iteration of their slalom race sail on it... The guy, who was no real fan of the RS:x said it was massive improvement that he believed had potential as a recreational club racer in the way the RS:x currently doesn't. But the CA rejected it! I hope they enjoy Rio - it's their last one....

Edited by Chris 249 - 27 Sep 14 at 1:35pm

Originally posted by Null But you would be happy to a manufacturer to make your chosen class be out of date two weeks after purchase, by changing the rule set without consulting the membership.  Good class associations work alongside the builders, in a partnership.  In most cases class associations are non profit organisations that look after the administration of the class so builders can actually make a profit without worrying about rule sets, running championships etc.

So what would the difference be, between what I'm happy to happen and say suddenly introducing a small rig and a much nicer colour to a new class barely even established? If the class had happened to be consulted on that one, had it already been established, like say the Phantom class, I wonder how the vote would go?

It's not about the freedom of folk to do or sail what they want, it's about those already doing it making certain nothing improves that might force them to upgrade.

I take the point with development classes and dare say the Merlin has its appeal as amply demonstrated by their numbers, I'm sure, had I been around a bit earlier in my or the moths lifespan that would have held some attraction, but sadly I'm on the downslope in the motor skills department so have to acknowledge my limitations.

However, I reserve the right to my view in all this, and point out again because once more it seems to be needed, I'm not forcing any opinion on you, y'all have it the way you like it, it is however far from perfect and if on a friday night after the pub folk choose to insult or question the jolly old perfection of my character, then retaliation will ensue, Auntie Stella sees to that.

What do you want here? An admission an opinion is wrong (not going to happen), to refrain from questioning the status quo? Then where would you be? No argument, no discussion = the very boredom I was being accused of last time.

Edited by iGRF - 27 Sep 14 at 4:01pm

Originally posted by mongrel DIV] In my opinion, what's missing is a less extreme singlehanded development class. Its been mentioned before, that a set of rules which could incorporate the Blaze, Phantom, RS300, and some one-off development boats could offer some interesting racing and could possibly satisfy GRF's requirements for a modern progressive singlehander. Why are you bothered about what he requires ? There are plenty of great boats out there already. Why complicate matters further. If you like one class - sail it against others (at events) or sail it in handicap races ? Faffing about using some existing classes will just dilute established classes further and probably end up with worse boats. The designers/manufacturers are not idiots and so the majority of the boats put there do their thing very well. There are already events where you can sail your 300 against a Phantom, Blaze etc etc - every weekend there are handicap races throughout the country. This thread has gone haywire - GRF moaning AGAIN ! Why do I even read it ?

Yes, its also not Rspeculation anymore either. time for an RS aero thread and lets try and keep boat comments to their own threads pleeeeeease.