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    Posted: 12 May 22 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by JimC

Well to my mind success is ordinary folks having fun on the water. I don't really give a flying f*** about millionaire toys or professional sailing.

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... and to add to that, easy accessible water sports like SUP are encouraged at some of the more progressive clubs out there.
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I am an ordinary person, I got into dinghy sailing through someone I knew, (caravanning friend), I have been round sailing, kayaking all my life though, so I had a idea what was going on. Did RYA level one and two.


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The beauty of sailing as a sport is that you don't need a club to do it. I sail most weekends in much the way that most cyclists cycle and most runners run, I just go out there and do it with a couple of mates. It's not a team sport like football or cricket, it doesn't need a prepared and maintained course/court like golf or tennis, all you need is a boat of some kind and a bit of water you can launch onto. Organised activities like racing benefit from a club structure and I have been a member of at least one sailing club or another for most of my life (12 to 20 and 29 to the present when at 69 I'm a member of two clubs).

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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

The beauty of sailing as a sport is that you don't need a club to do it. I sail most weekends in much the way that most cyclists cycle and most runners run, I just go out there and do it with a couple of mates. It's not a team sport like football or cricket, it doesn't need a prepared and maintained course/court like golf or tennis, all you need is a boat of some kind and a bit of water you can launch onto. Organised activities like racing benefit from a club structure and I have been a member of at least one sailing club or another for most of my life (12 to 20 and 29 to the present when at 69 I'm a member of two clubs).



Some  'sailing' isn't a sport at all, any more than caravanning is a sport or riding a Harley to the cafe is a sport. Blasting around in a fast dinghy is exercise, but there's a spectrum from Wayfarers through Drascombes to yachts which is progressively more sedentary and nn-competitive. Lots of people do these sorts of sailing without benefitting from being in clubs.
Also there are clubs and associations which do quite a bit for people which don't  have premises.
Dinghy racing as a competitive sport, maybe we don't need the clubhouse and the bar, but we need some sort of organisation, whether it's formal or not.
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Originally posted by 423zero

I am an ordinary person, I got into dinghy sailing through someone I knew, (caravanning friend), I have been round sailing, kayaking all my life though, so I had a idea what was going on. Did RYA level one and two.


....kayaks are a lizard infiltration device. Seem innocent ATM but when dinghy sailing is dead these things will morph into enveloping cocoons.

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Originally posted by eric_c

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

The beauty of sailing as a sport is that you don't need a club to do it. I sail most weekends in much the way that most cyclists cycle and most runners run, I just go out there and do it with a couple of mates. It's not a team sport like football or cricket, it doesn't need a prepared and maintained course/court like golf or tennis, all you need is a boat of some kind and a bit of water you can launch onto. Organised activities like racing benefit from a club structure and I have been a member of at least one sailing club or another for most of my life (12 to 20 and 29 to the present when at 69 I'm a member of two clubs).



Some  'sailing' isn't a sport at all, any more than caravanning is a sport or riding a Harley to the cafe is a sport. Blasting around in a fast dinghy is exercise, but there's a spectrum from Wayfarers through Drascombes to yachts which is progressively more sedentary and nn-competitive. Lots of people do these sorts of sailing without benefitting from being in clubs.
Also there are clubs and associations which do quite a bit for people which don't  have premises.
Dinghy racing as a competitive sport, maybe we don't need the clubhouse and the bar, but we need some sort of organisation, whether it's formal or not.

Yes, agreed, that was sort of my point  Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

The beauty of sailing as a sport is that you don't need a club to do it. I sail most weekends in much the way that most cyclists cycle and most runners run, I just go out there and do it with a couple of mates. It's not a team sport like football or cricket, it doesn't need a prepared and maintained course/court like golf or tennis, all you need is a boat of some kind and a bit of water you can launch onto. Organised activities like racing benefit from a club structure and I have been a member of at least one sailing club or another for most of my life (12 to 20 and 29 to the present when at 69 I'm a member of two clubs).


But that isn’t helpful to attracting newcomers. Racing run informally as a group of mates is the very definition of exclusive and cliquey. 
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deleted......Point made elsewhere




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Anyone can join a sailing club. A good club will provide boats for learning in, training, a published race programme, safety cover to encourage less experienced sailors to push boundaries, boat storage etc etc. Now imagine there was no club, just a stretch of water. A family, with no previous sailing experience, see you and your mate sailing and think that it looks like a fun thing to do.  They have no boat, no idea what boat to buy or where to look, no where to keep a boat if they do buy one, no way of learning how to sail it, no safety cover to boost confidence, no way of knowing when you and your mates will next hold an impromptu race, no way of joining in.  So they’ll be lost to the sport. 

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In my experience they'll get chatting with one of the sailors and get invited along for a sail, buy a boat and join in...
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