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    Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 12:26pm

Originally posted by G.R.F.


...and it was that blocked poking from both ends took
quite a while.

Only Grumpf could say this and (not) get away with it..... (I'll get my coat)
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So now whilst I'm on, anyone else had problems on a tight reach?

Grumpfs. To quote Paul Goodison (I think) .....Ease, Hike, Trim !

Really important to keep on a bit of windward heel on (definately not any
leeward heel, which is seriously not good), hike hard and just let the sheet
ride out to keep it flat. Did one race, which due to a big windshift turned into
two mile long close fetches and a short run in 20k breeze with the 10.2 -
f'in hard work neither planing or pointing, just a long long slog all the time
easing to keep the windward rail down and hiking to keep her moving over
the waves.
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Thanks for putting up the video.... it  shows that getting in after a wet capsize can be very difficult in Big Wind. The section where you climbed in over the back was in lightish breeze, the boat tacked on you, you had to hold on to the gunwale to stop it capsizing again as it span around away from the wind, it lifted you up slightly. After swapping sides. Imagine doing that in a sea way with big wind and gusts. Quite a tall order. Well certainly in my experience.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

okay video of some demo recoveries
now up:

http://www.rs100sailing.
com

That was exhausting just watching that TT. Well done.

The recovery with the kite was interesting. Just
releasing the halyard and then getting it back in the
sock when upright. I've not seen that before. Would that
work on double hander? Seems easier than the Mrs trying
to retrieve the kite from the water while I shout
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Originally posted by ellistine

Originally posted by turnturtle

okay video of some demo recoveries
now up:

http://www.rs100sailing.
com

That was exhausting just watching that TT. Well done.

The recovery with the kite was interesting. Just
releasing the halyard and then getting it back in the
sock when upright. I've not seen that before. Would that
work on double hander? Seems easier than the Mrs trying
to retrieve the kite from the water while I shout
'encouragement' from the plate   

That works well if you are quick & it's not choppy (like the video) ... if you are slow and you are in a sea it can lead to the kite getting very tangled around everything ....
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Originally posted by ellistine

Originally posted by turnturtle

okay video of some demo recoveries
now up:

http://www.rs100sailing.
com

That was exhausting just watching that TT. Well done.

The recovery with the kite was interesting. Just
releasing the halyard and then getting it back in the
sock when upright. I've not seen that before. Would that
work on double hander? Seems easier than the Mrs trying
to retrieve the kite from the water while I shout
'encouragement' from the plate   

+1

Really, really interested in that uncleat and right the boat then dowse the Spinny....i wonder though, on the sea in waves it might get in a right mess, maybe even twist around the pole....dunno...I shall try it though.

I thought that the  "missed the toe-straps" fall out the back was funny ....although the swimming around made me tired.

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whoops sorry....didn't read those posts before finishing mine.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

probably not Ellistine, you've got a
forestay to contend with I'm afraid!

Which is what causes us the most problem when the boats on
it's side. The kite would mostly be in front of the
forestay yet the sock mouth is someway behind it. If we
were upright with the kite in the water it would be away
from the stay. I appreciate though, if the boat started
moving when righted it wouldn't be pretty.

Might give it a go though.
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great video TT - thanks for all the effort and the bruises.  Like TimG I thought the missed the straps fall was a laugh. 

I was interested in how to reach over to uncleat the genny halyard - can you always reach that by going in front of the wings? 

I have sometime not bothered to uncleat before righting but instead have uncleated it immediately as I jumped back into the boat off the board.  I'll have to try reaching down further as it seems a long way for a shorta$$e like me.  Have wondered if it would be possible to rig some sort of 'uncleating line'

 
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Good video James and I guess we have all reached the same conclusions, i.e.
dry capsize ahead of the wing with boom walk like a 300 or over the
transom. Coming in over the wing doesn't usually work unless the boat is
slightly off the wind and you can sheet the mainsail a little as you come in to
stop pulling the boat on top of you. Obviously the lightweights may find this
easier than the heavier sailors.

As demonstrated, over the back from an open transom is very easy and the
only thing you have to do is keep one hand on the windward wing applying
pressure to stop a further capsize.
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