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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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Although I have no intention of selling ours, I still attach value to it, a bit vague numerically perhaps. I would think in the early years, depreciation would exceed one suit of sails per year. But as they say in investment, past performance is no guarantee of future value. |
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I am not sure you can draw an analogy with printer cartridges here ... this is a whole different ball game ...
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timeintheboat ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 01 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 615 |
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The problem with an SMOD considering moving to a OD view when sourcing sails - even from restricted suppliers - is that it means measurement for all new sails and getting the measurement points correctly defined.
Not an issue for an SMOD sailor. Just unpack em and go. And of course if the measurements allow any margin you'll end up with those that can afford it going for different cuts of sail for different conditions - and then that somewhat defeats the possibility of any potential cost savings from going "open". Has any class done this by the way - moved from a single sail supplier (and no measurement) to the "open route"? |
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Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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hum3 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 23 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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IMO this over simplifies the argument I was making and misses the point somewhat. a) I just can't see why such a move would push up new 400 prices, if RS are selling hulls, rigs, foils & new boat packages at a loss (or at cost) just to generate margin on <after-market> sales of sails then I'd be bl$$dy amazed! It might work for Tesco's with Turkeys at X-Mas but me thinks that's a slightly different economy of scale.... ![]() Not saying selling at cost OR at a loss, just sacrificing margin on boats to keep the price down. Selling more boats drives an increase sail sales volume, which gives them the opportunity to recover the lost boat margin in the sails at the same time. They have to make money somewhere! c) increased activity in the class CANNOT be a bad thing for RS d) comparing the Merlin to the RS400 is a nonsense and irrelevant (sorry, sounds harsh but that's my opinion in this case) [/QUOTE] EDIT - Spelling Edited by hum3 |
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I don't undersrand why Nick allows this thread to rumble on .... just tell these guys the score ...
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I must admit, I'm rather surprized it has got this far. |
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Mikey 14778 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 298 |
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Maybe it's because it would be hard to explain why LDC charge a shed load more for their RS400 sail (which is made with good economies of scale) than Rooster who probably only make about 10 a year. And once you get involved in that kind of discussion, it can be difficult to get out again without having to make some kind of a bald financial statement like 'because it makes us a decent profit which is really what we're here for and up until now the buyers haven't had any choice so why would we go cheaper'. Not that I care too much as I don't have an RS400. But if I did, I'd buy Rooster sails. |
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The replica sail debate aside there are all sorts of other daft rumours that I am certain have no substance that could be put to bed ...
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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Really, i didn't know that people had the ability to stop discussions that are critical. Edited by Norbert |
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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Sorry TT but your love in with LDC is getting too romantic. Are you sure that the Rooster sails are allegedly inferior quality. I've only ever heard good things about their quality |
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