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Simon Childs 
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 Topic: PY Numbers (again)Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 7:32pm |
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Who Cares? The only true form of racing is fleet racing! Handicaps racing is a flawed science that is totally venue and wind specific - Move on... |
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tickler
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 7:33pm |
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It is not just wind conditions that change things its wind condition/location. We would be happy to sail Tasar off 1023 at Queen Mary etc. and take on Phantoms. I am sure that this is Merlins main point.
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JimC
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 8:43pm |
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We've had them in the past for winter series but they never seemed especially competitive. In many ways its similar conditions to Queen Mary up the road where they also don't seem to do very well... |
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tickler
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 8:46pm |
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My very point Jim.
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blaze720
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 10:05pm |
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Q. how big exactly is the Phantom sail ? Just curious as there seems a range of opinions around here.
Mike L. |
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AlexM
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 10:10pm |
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 10:24pm |
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Simon you are absolutely right (and obviously a Phantom sailor), it doesnt mean we have to accept it! Most of my racing is at open events, but i do like doing the major handicap events and the winter series at another club. |
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blaze720
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 10:50pm |
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Alex M .... 9.75m
That is, I am led to believe, 'measured area' ... is this different to the actual area ? If different what is it ? Mike L.. |
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Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 10:56pm |
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Isn't it pretty much the same as a fireball main?
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Norbert
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Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 11:01am |
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Would have thought the Phantom Fireball sail being pretty triangular doesn't have huge chunks of secret size added in which i think is what is be alluded to here! These sails have been around since time immemorial so any mysterious power advantages would have been spotted by now!
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