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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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I used to go better in the light stuff, and if you've ever met me you'll know I a bit of a lardarse. Now I only think I did so well due to that principle of momentum....
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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To be fair, lower wind limits have also been suggested by people who see that the future of the sport is all about spectacular high-speed sailing in ideal conditions. They are just as wrong as the people you mention, but it's a different type of wrong. Sadly, I have to admit I used to advocate lower wind limits for a while as a teenager, for the exact reason you give....it just took me a while to admit that. |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Absolutely right GRF, a few years ago I trekked all the way to Ullswater one sunny Sunday to be greeted by a perfect 5-6 knot breeze..... racing was cancelled because the f*@!ing Formula boys thought it was too light for their 6 knot minimum. No surprise that Raceboard attendance is 4-5 times that of FW these days (but, sadly, too late to save windsurfing club racing). I raced the Blaze in a drifter on Sunday, battered old original Sobstadt sail, original centre mainsheet, never sailed the beast before.... Had a lovely afternoon, came last in the handicap fleet but was improving by the end and finished in front of the Enterprises and L2k over the water. New sail tomorrow and off the boom sheeting ready to fit..... I'll do better next week (except it's forecast to blow its t!ts off, more in the boats comfort zone but well out of mine)......
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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There's also the practical point that if tidal stream strength is approaching wind strength then navigation is more or less impossible - and there may be other considerations. If, for instance, your racing fleet has to cross a chain ferry then you do not want to be sailing in conditions where its impossible to get out of the way. But ultimately the object of the exercise is to have fun. If a fleet/club decides that racing below a given wind strength is not fun, and they'd rather be telling tall tales over a beer in the dinghy park, well, who are we to argue? I can recall a fair few occasions when a fleet cheered when the abandon flag went up, but not any when they sighed or booed... |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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+1 Every sailor has his day, the big guys do well when it blows, the lightweights in marginal conditions and the wily old salt (regardless of weight) when it's light. If we could just get over ourselves and accept we have strengths and weaknesses (both skill and physique related) we might just enjoy the racing whatever the weather.
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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that's the issue ...
someone who is fit enough and has good enough technique can hold onto the same rig as the 'fatties' even if they are a stone or two underweight and any losses upwind are made back off the wind |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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such is the nature of the beast - and why the N12 and the MR are the basis of a good number of derivative ODs (Lark, RS200, RS400 to name just three off the top of the head never mind the stem / forefoot design to maximise lwl and basic hull forms)
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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True but the fitness/strength/power to weight issue is separate matter, a fit small guy will beat an unfair one as a fit big guy will beat an unfit big guy, sailing skill being equal. The extra fitness allows the sailor to make better use of his weight when it's windy and be more agile around the boat when it isn't, win win. IMHO multiple rigs are not the issue, you might as well ban boats that suit lightweights because if a heavyweight tries to race one he's at a disadvantage. If it bothers you and you are a larger gent then buy a boat that suits your physique or go on a diet (big skinny guys win out both ways). The handicap's will work themselves out in a couple of years and if the Aero settles on one class with three rigs or a single multi rig class it will be reflected in the returns.
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Completely valid points, both of them. The "but" is that experience seems to say that if a class are deciding whether to have a higher wind minimum, then they should accept that years of experience indicates that it appears to hurt class numbers. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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What you are describing is a PRO making a decision based on local conditions as to whether racing is practical. This happens everywhere already, usually after a discussion with whoever is in charge of the event from a class point of view. It may be that with your strong tide in one venue, a class minimum of 4 knots, say, would still have them going backwards, whereas on a small puddle a zephyr or 2 a would see a nice, if knee aching, tactical battle, and the 4 knot mind would ruin that. |
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