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    Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 1:47pm
Originally posted by sandgrounder

I would imagine a person unable to lift a 4kg unstayed carbon mast would probably struggle to sail the boat.

Seriously? If it were just the weight that was the issue then you have a point, its the 7 square meters of cloth flapping round attached to it in a stiff breeze that causes the problems.....
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4 kg mast plus windage from the sail on a breezy day, with the full length battens flicking from side to side, not flapping? Sounds hard work to me. Also, on a very light hull, the sail will blow the boat over.
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No it wouldnt
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getting mast in boat is all technique (and being arsed) like all these things
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Not sure I understand how full-length battens would work on a sleeved sail. Won't they just 'push' the sleeve around the mast? What would / could stop this happening?
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jeez 10 pages and still not even a fuzzy photo to work with - spill the beans, it isn't a secret...car manufacturers test all the time and the happy snappers upload the photos

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Originally posted by GybeFunny

 
...causes the problems.....

That's your experience then? I'm a small adult and it's not mine.
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Full length battens on a sleeved sail are commonplace on windyplanks. but you are correct, they can rotate around.
In almost any wind upwind unless using insanely stiff battens, the wind pressure in the sail pulls the batten back into a fill saily shape.
The "rotation" helps to calm the sail down when sheeted out, but is a bit undersireable for light air tacks and gybes, and in heavily loaded battens towards the head, where a nice camber inducer works a treat.
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Maybe nobody felt sufficiently moved to photograph it?
Or maybe a shadowy organisation confiscated media devices from onlookers.
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Originally posted by Daniel Holman

No it wouldnt


Was this an answer as to whether the boat would blow over?

If you have a battened sail that can't be dropped when the boat is tied to the shore, why won't it blow over? The Lasers do, my Lightning does if I don't take the sail down, as does the Phantom, if he leaves his up. This boat will weigh less, but the windage will be the same, if not more.
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