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Despite my previous thread, I am starting to realise that sailing with my son is not going to be
A regular thing and am starting to think of a decent singlehander and keep my mirror for 
Occasional family use

I am 5'7 and about 80KG and have a
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Despite my previous thread, I am starting to realise that sailing with my son is not going to be
A regular thing and am starting to think of a decent singlehander and keep my mirror for 
Occasional family use

I am 5'7 and about 80KG and have a budget of £4000, there are quite few solos at our club Bhutan open minded to all suggestions
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4k will buy a good Solo, if tere are others at the club why not? Much better than some random tub that no one else sails and you have no one to learn from.
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Laser, Solo, Phantom, Blaze, all good boats with their own +/- points and discussed ad-n on this forum before!!
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

4k will buy a good Solo, 

And there you go.. the myth and dross is perpetuated another person is misled and the whole dire circumstance continues..

There is no such thing as a 'good Solo' they just exist for old people to perpetuate an illusion.

It is a fifty year old crap design built a bit better, that's it.

The fact there are so many? Same reason lots of people read the Sun.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by pondmonkey

4k will buy a good Solo, 

And there you go.. the myth and dross is perpetuated another person is misled and the whole dire circumstance continues..

There is no such thing as a 'good Solo' they just exist for old people to perpetuate an illusion.

It is a fifty year old crap design built a bit better, that's it.

The fact there are so many? Same reason lots of people read the Sun.

And so what would you recommend... blow fifty grand piecemeal on several floating junks with no one to sail against?  Sell them off for less than you paid for them whilst spending even more being smarter than the market by commissioning your own design?  Eventually consigning the remnants of a failed (re)entry into competitive sailing to the bottom of the garden- holed, unloved without any intrinsic value... nothing but an eyesore to the mrs, a joke for the kids (dad's silly mid-life f*ck up), and nice warm home for badgers, foxes and field mice now the weather's drawing in (at least they appreciate the heat-asborbing black finish) 

... all this, only to find ultimate irony in a £700 sh*tter with a Laser logo?  Oddly enough, 'reversing-out' the very negative reason as to why it was never so popular in the first place.... that being it wasn't different enough from a Laser, so now you can sail it against Lasers and have a good race with that slight boat speed advantage you've always craved for (as long as you ignore the spreadsheet at the end and the fact that there's no 'proper racing' for it, why the hell not?)

Alternatively buy any of the boats listed in Getafix's list above... just make sure there's some other to sail against and get on enjoying the sport.  

p.s. if any of this is a bit pot, kettle, black... I was young and stupid, what's your excuse?  LOL


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So poor old Seasick Steve joins the back of the Solo fleet so a bunch of old greybeards can feel good about themselves, along with you.

Instead of buying a Blaze, getting a bit of a thrill out of sailing it and the benefit of a little Banditsomeness to help the spreadsheet blues, you should have bought a Blaze, the bloke that bought mine is your build and he rocks in it, he also has your propensity for third rank off the start line, but the speed of it carries him through the fleet. Or buy a Phantom, at least it was a better design and he can get the coffee on whilst he's bumbling about.

But Solo - ugh spare me..
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by pondmonkey

4k will buy a good Solo, 

There is no such thing as a 'good Solo' they just exist for old people to perpetuate an illusion.


Should be the perfect boat for you then Graeme  LOL
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

So poor old Seasick Steve joins the back of the Solo fleet so a bunch of old greybeards can feel good about themselves, along with you.

Instead of buying a Blaze, getting a bit of a thrill out of sailing it and the benefit of a little Banditsomeness to help the spreadsheet blues, you should have bought a Blaze, the bloke that bought mine is your build and he rocks in it, he also has your propensity for third rank off the start line, but the speed of it carries him through the fleet. Or buy a Phantom, at least it was a better design and he can get the coffee on whilst he's bumbling about.

But Solo - ugh spare me..

you're probably right... if there were 20 Blazes at my club fielding 5 minimum, 10+ on a good day, I would gravitate towards one more than a Solo for sure; but there aren't, so I won't.  

And before saying 'buy one and they'll all come running', you and I know they won't and quite frankly why bother anyway?  It's just another boat, the fun is in the competition and as long as it's nice enough to sail, ('better' than a laser - in a sort of fashion), then that's fine by me.  

edit- third rank start, yep that's 'cos I was over, sailed back around the fleet and still came back through past you  LOL  But I'm glad it worked out like that, there's nothing quite like my smile as I sailed past you and there's nothing quite so nasty as my transom in the distance to know how owned you really were  Wink



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