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    Posted: 14 Jan 07 at 8:27pm

Well, Had our first day out on the RS 800 today and I think it's going to take quite a few more outings to get to grips with it.

2 races and 5 capsizes. but we did hook it up on the last reach and start to fly, what a boat. It's a bit of a shock to the system when you've been sailing cats for the last 15 years, it ain't half tippy.

It was a lovely day but a bit gusty so I'm putting a couple of the swims down to being on the wire when the wind switched off. I imagine that things are much easier in a steady wind.

How far back should crew be going upwind in 10-15 mph wind and a bit of swell?

I kind of went through the sail on the last capsize so if we get that fixed by two weeks time we'll see how it goes. (weather permitting)

Thanks for al the tips
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Upwind be prepared to brace your back leg rather than your front...feels a little odd if you are coming out of a 505, Fireball, 470 or similar.

And don't be put off when she starts singing to you downwind!
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Originally posted by turnturtle

we had 28 stone in an 800


People weigh that much??!!!! 
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Originally posted by Wee Man

Thanks for this, just how much lard do I need to race this thing? I'm 10.5 stone and Helm is about the same.



Weight in an 800 absolutely does not matter and dont let anyone tell you otherwise, its a pure boat handling boat.  The only difference being, the lighter you are, the more knackered you'll get as it can get to be a pretty wide boat to run across. 
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Originally posted by Wee Man

Lucy,

Thanks for this, just how much lard do I need to race this thing? I'm 10.5 stone and Helm is about the same.

I saw the video showing the position in front of the mast and have seen 18ft skiffs sailed the same in light wind. My problem is I don't like light winds, I know the saying that any idiot can sail when there is wind and it takes a good sailor to get it going in nothing, but I just don't see the point in buying a fast boat to go slowly.

Don't know how much lard you actually need for an RS800, they are supposed to have a weight equalisation system so you might be able to look up on the website what settings of rack & lead you & your helm should have. I sail a Cherub, you and your helm would be the perfect weight for that  ! 

I didn't like light wind much before, but with the design of our new boat my task in light wind is to lie flat on the 'foredeck' and keep completely still until asked to tack or hoist the kite! This is excellent as I can snooze gently without getting p*ssed off and disrupting the helm's careful tactical shenanigans.  Downwind even in light wind I've got the kite (and now the extreme positive t-foil) to contend with so even in very light wind its pretty busy.

 
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Lucy,

Thanks for this, just how much lard do I need to race this thing? I'm 10.5 stone and Helm is about the same.

I saw the video showing the position in front of the mast and have seen 18ft skiffs sailed the same in light wind. My problem is I don't like light winds, I know the saying that any idiot can sail when there is wind and it takes a good sailor to get it going in nothing, but I just don't see the point in buying a fast boat to go slowly.

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Top tip for crewing an asymetric: if in doubt, let it out (the kite that is). If you oversheet it will be very hard to steer on the downwind leg.

Other than that you should be fine. You don't have to do the main on an RS800 so you'll just be lard upwind.

The only other thing is not to be shy about getting infront of the mast if it is light winds. If it is sub trapezing, or marginal trapezing upwind, I am in front of the mast for the entire race (tacks, gybes, hoists and drops).

Good luck 
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Great, Thanks all.

Looks like a great boat, I'm guessing that, like most modern boats, things are all in the places they should be.

Looking forward to it.
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i'm sure you will manage! i had only crewed anything 2 times this year (an osprey and a brief go on the wire of my 29er) before i went to the cherub nats and came 3rd!

I found everything a bit of a pickle on the first day - kept getting mixed up in all sorts of rope etc. As soon as you sit down and think about where things are, it becomes a lot simpler. Before you go out just try and remember where everything is, (kite sheet blocks, halyard etc.) and you will find the basics when going through manouvers will come a lot easier, as you will have to think about it all just a little bit less.

Have fun!!!
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