hurricane 59

yes this has happened with a few sailors but you can win them all

and to think the germans almost stopped the tornado having a carbon mast this i believe would have been a death nail for the tornado as an olympic boat!

think you are all getting away from the point a little. which started off by asking if the tt circuit would suffer by having the 2 modes sailing against each other. also to reply te some of the other posts new boats being order is one thing(if they ever get built )but it only tells half the story what about the regular hurricane sailors that have put there boats up for sale and are leaving the fleet and if the sx was only two minutes behind the leading hurriane at loch ness after the beat they must have missed him of the timmings at the windward mark.

have tried one but there are better 3 sail cats around.

2 sail for fleet racing 3 sails for handicapp events count me in. 3 v 2 mixed for tt events count me and many others out.

Dennis, Apols if the above came over agressive or having a go at you (today has not ben a good day).  Just wanted to state some facts ina  hurry. 

I think this is going to be a good thing for the 5.9; hopefully will re-vitalise the boat, get some new orders in (last time I spoke to Andy Webb The White's had agreed to build one set of hulls at a time, with Andy to fit them out etc).

If I had a spare 3K I would buy one just for long distance racing !

1, The SX does rate the same as the Std 5.9; this as you say is because the Jib is smaller (Old tornado size) and a few more lbs were added for the kite kit etc.

2, The boat (when it's windy is faster with the smaller Jib, when was sailing them there was actually discussions in reducing the size of the Jib to (old) Tornado size as overall the boat is quicker wirh the smaller sail.

3, Yes, there is a loss of upwind speed as you have all the extra string flapping around the mast and the pole in the way.

4, Re std Beating the SX, was this W/L courses?  I'd be surprised if so as unless it's survival time I would always want a kite to drive lower - also, where the crews of similar skills?

5, The old (bagged) kite was too full (I Had one and went for the flattest possible).

6, As for the comparisons with the Tornado, and the F18.  Consider, the Sx rates the same as the current F18 rating and is 2 feet longer - yes it's heavier, but generally I'd go for the extra length every time   

7, Finally, yes, you don't need to spend loads to have one.