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    Posted: 09 Jul 22 at 7:29am
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Takeover in the offing? RS or Topper? Who is the biggest?
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Clever, bold and frankly, I love it
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Edited by A2Z - 10 Sep 22 at 10:28am
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The Topper is a youth training dinghy, but there's no obvious progression within the Toppr brand.
Alternatives that offer a progression are the ICLA dinghy and the Aero (both with various rig sizes).
Locally, we have a lot of youth racing in the Aeros - but very little in the laser/ICLA
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People seem to be reading a lot into this.                                                                        
I would have thought it's no big deal for test sails to be offered in a class where most of the sailors will inevitably move on?                                                                               
It might be nice to see some two hander options being presented?                                     
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Maybe what RS are really just saying that the Topper is the natural/ideal 'feeder' boat for the Aero.  Equally it might invite future 'imitation' of their marketing approach tactics in reverse - you have to beware unintended consequences in every approach considered !!

In my own class we were more than happy to share events with other classes when their makers also sought to showcase their offerings.  Our CA went out of their way to encourage informal trials across these fleets at these multi-class meetings whenever and however the opportunity arose .... it worked for the class rather well in the early days as it was establishing itself - and still does today.   Wink      
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Topper =cheap. Laser= plentiful at a range of prices. Aero = crazy price for a little single hander.

How many Topper parents will be shelling out £7.5k+ for little Johnny / Jeanette's new boat. I don't see the laser / ilca being abandoned as the progression class just yet.

After an aero demo day of which I partook, RS called me to offer a new one for £4500. Should have done some speculation!

It would be nice to see some progression into double handers mind.

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Yes,  Laser/ ILCA are relative cheap second hand but the price of a new Aero/Zero/ILCA are all in the same ball park . 
Yes we all would like progression in double handers but if they haven’t already transferred to Fevas before they are too big for Toppers , it’s not going to happen . 




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I would think that anything that encourages progression from a ‘younger persons’ dinghy onwards to adulthood classes should be considered a good thing. 
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