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    Posted: 09 Jul 15 at 11:17pm
ok you might have read my last post which had a lot of questions, so after taking your advice and watching YouTube videos this is the situation. 

My new club does not race, which is fine

I want a boat that will carry me and be fairly stable but I want a thrill I don't want to cruise, I want to get to a point where I can get out on the trapeze

I can now see not 1 boat fits for my requirements so this is what I'm going to do. Get a boat that can take me at 19st, fairly stable but needs to thrill

So I have noticed in my previous thread no one mentioned the Laser 3000, laser vago or a solo?now what's your thoughts about a RYA L2 with about 6 months experience on a lake but now going out on the sea on there own (in time when confident) got some crewing coming up, so which boat for me single hander?

Wanderer
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3000
Vago
Vareo
Phantom
Any RS? 600 maybe?

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Not the RS600......  unless you really want to spend a lot of time in the water rather than on it.

RS Vareo would be a good place to start.
I'm not sure the Solo will thrill you.

Any of the others is worth a try.
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I have a friend who is not a racer, but a relatively competent sailor in a 'sea scout' kind of way.

I recommended he got a Vago - it's easy to maintain (you don't need to maintain it), he has a wire and spinnaker to play with if he's feeling confident and above all, it's the closest monohull I could find which fits the bill of good enough for one (in a sporty-ish kind of way) but suitable for taking out his wife and/or kid on for a pootle.

He hasn't looked back.... 
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Hi Kneewrecker,

I was hoping someone would say that as it looks a good boat and lots of fun. I do weigh 19st but have been out on a Laser 1 on a few occasions before and managed to sail ok, although a little wobbly at times, not saying that is a boat for me as it 100% is not but it was available at our club at the time to borrow/

So do you think that will be ok, I guess I could google its weight limit.
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Hi Pierre,

Ok the 600 was a punt so thanks for the advice, Im surprised about the Solo as I have seen a few racing around (all be it on a lake) and they looked quite quick and were on their side (which is a thrill for me) quite a bit and looked quite sturdy, but this was on a lake so not sure if the sea would be a different kettle of fish altogether.

I really do appreciate everyone's advice as it really helps novice's like me.
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It's primarily a double-hander - and whilst you can't just assume that any double hander can work as a singlehander for a bigger guy (or girl), this one seems to be pretty damn versatile, stable and low worry factor compared to other more fragile options.

I think you will have a lot of fun - and it will give the space and time needed to establish what you (and your family) want from the sport.   There are definitely better 'dedicated' options if you want to race alone (Phantom) or if you want to cruise with your son (Wayfarer, or the RS Venture).  But neither of these are as versatile in the short term.

Vagos come with two different types of sails - a racing set which are bigger and more powerful and a training set, which are harder wearing and good for higher wind sailing in the future.  If you hunt around for a second hand boat it would be well worth holding out for one with both sets - sails from Laser are notoriously expensive, so do check out the wear and tear on these before handing over your cash.  

I wouldn't overly worry about a bit a drive to get the right boat either- in my experience it's always a decent chunk of time to get one and get it back home or to the club, so an extra hour or two on the motorway makes naff all difference.

Enjoy the experience - buying your first boat and then launching it can be pretty special :-)
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One thing about the Vago - it does fall over when left tied up rather easily. A small problem, but one that can be annoying.
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Originally posted by Rupert

One thing about the Vago - it does fall over when left tied up rather easily. A small problem, but one that can be annoying.


Think I've wandered into sailing anarchy by mistake.
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Originally posted by ventus

Originally posted by Rupert

One thing about the Vago - it does fall over when left tied up rather easily. A small problem, but one that can be annoying.


Think I've wandered into sailing anarchy by mistake.


Nope, lost me.
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Lots of people on it moan about any boat that falls over when left unattended.
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