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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Brave new televised world or the demise of Olympic sailing as the pinnacle of our sport? Personally, I lean to the latter and that is also the view taken in a scathing article by Magnus Wheatley in a well-known sailing newsletter this morning. http://www.sailing.org/meetings/2005november/papers/sub_025. pdf Discuss. |
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I notice they havn't asked the sailors
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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I'd like to know what would happen if ISAF said "OK, we'll keep it as it is and accept that means no televised sailing then". Does that mean sailing gets chucked out of the Olympics? If so, what a sad reflection on what the event is now about. If not, then IMO that is exactly what ISAF should say. The event should be for the sailors. Spectators needs should be incidental.
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fizzicist ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Aug 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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Interesting reading, but if sailing is so expensive to cover adequately, how come the BBC used to do a pretty good job of televising Ultra 30's and 18 foot Skiffs a few years back. Perhaps what we need to do is revise the classes sailed to make it more visually exciting and reflect what is happening in the sport. We could probably benefit from ceasing to use boats designed in the 50's and embracing modern designs. Perhaps the adoption of a single design of foiling Moth for the lightweight singlehanders, Musto Skiffs for the bigger boys, 49ers and 18 foot skiffs for mixed events etc? Dress it up however you like it, watching a Finn isn't exciting.
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Sorry but the subject of choice of classes has been done to death on other threads. It would be more interesting if we could concentrate on the proposal at hand.
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Sounds good to me (sorry). Lets face it, a sport where you can hardly ever tell who's winning a race, let alone the regatta, and the person who crosses the finish line first hasn't always won is not going to make great TV. Even rowing (yawwn) seems to be a more popular spectator sport than sailing. Especially given how well the GB team does at Olympic level, shockingly little coverage was shown from Athens - I didn't even manage to see ANY of the exciting new Tornado Sport races, despite combing the schedules. Anything that increases the TV coverage has to be good - and the competitors will have just as much fun - and more if they get more attention and hence more sponsorship deals. rant over.. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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The problem with a single-race final is that we all know that luck plays a significant part in an individual race. That's one of the good things about sailing; you might not be winning regularly but once in a while, the start comes right, the shifts all arrive at the right moment and you win. In a series it all balances out and the cream rises to the top, but in an individual race, even I can win sometimes. So that says, under this proposal, after four years (minimum) of training and preparation, you finish with a glorified lottery. I am staggered that the ISAF can propose this.
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Why? What's so important about sailing being on the TV? Do you think the Olympics are there to entertain you or to find the best competitor? I happen to think the second but it's a valid question. |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Take your (1st) point Stefan - but you do get points credit for all the other races prior to the final, so it's not really a lottery - it just weights the final race by a yet to be specified amount. Conversely, the first person over the line still isn't the winner - so it will continue to confuse the hell out of most TV watchers. Ie Ben Ainsley won by coming last? Maybe traditional racing should be dumped in favour of parallel upwind down-wind slaloms. Preferably in super-fast, hard to control boats ensuring lots of telivisable wipe outs. More my kind of sailing. To your 2nd - I think both are important. Everyone pays for the olympics, so probably have a right to enjoy watching it - and the more that watch the better the funding; plus there's also the worlds for finding the best sailors. Edited by NickA |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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How do you reckon that? We will be paying for the London Olympics but I'm not planning on paying for any others. |
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