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Medway Maniac 
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 Topic: Centre vs Transom SheetingPosted: 01 Jun 14 at 7:29pm |
Hadn't they discovered 'off the boom' sheeting, or is that forbidden as in the Miracle class, for goodness sake. Why do some classes seek to be so unnecessarily restrictive on zero-cost mods*? It's almost as if they don't want to you to enjoy yourself too much. * actually, off the boom would be cheaper than the off the thwart solution imposed by the Miracle class. They even limited the bridle height; how anal is that?
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JimC
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 4:13pm |
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Mind you, last year I was sailing a vintage Moth for various reasons, which I'm really far too heavy for, so keeping weight forward, esp while tacking, was crucial. After trying a number of alternatives what I found I preferred was off the boom stern sheeting!
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winging it
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Posted: 01 Jun 14 at 8:43am |
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I think it's already been said that the topper became centre main partly because of introduction of the more powerful and easily adjustable kickers. We have updated all our club boats and again, as has been said, the transition to bigger/other boats is much less confusing.
I watched some of a recent Ent open at Hunts and initially was surprised at how many racing were still aft main. Looking closet, however, you notice that the centre main boats have far less space for the crew. I agree that aft main tacking etc can be smoother and easier than centre, but you do stil get dragged backwards. I guess as an adult you pays your money and takes your choice, but for beginners centre does seem best.
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the same, but different...
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JimC
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Posted: 31 May 14 at 9:31pm |
Mainly I believe it was to head off the godawful Laser 4.7. |
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NickA
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Posted: 31 May 14 at 9:24pm |
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Someone at our club decided to buy a training fleet of Comet trios and rig them all transom main "because it's less confusing for beginners" ... consider the look on their face when they graduate Level 2 and get into a 2000 (or pretty much any modern dinghy).
The topper is a pathway class to the laser which has always been centre main to make for easier tacks and gybes whilst facing the right way and fewer tangles as the sheet goes forward and the tiller goes back. ... interestingly the contender is centre main and quite a few people tack them facing backwards (to avoid smashing their face on the turret I think!) |
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zippyRN
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Posted: 31 May 14 at 2:38pm |
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As a number of posters have pointed out - in a centre sheeted boat you face forwards during manouveres
tiller extension holds is an interesting one - havign been taught the convetional by the book RYA method in transom sheeted dinghies as a lad the frying pan grip comes naturall,y, then getting introduced to centre sheeting and 'bunny grip' (and the ability to do a two handed mainsheet pull - hand over hand style i later found the a the frying pan grip doesn;t have to be used in transom sheeted boats ... the topper is an interesting point - isd the centre main option just for 'sexiness' or to meet the percieved norms of 'performance' dinghies ( especially when you look at the mid nineties dash for sexiness in the double hander world with cadets and mirrors marginalised for the centre sheeted, asy-kite flying 405 in 'the system' ) |
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maxibuddah
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Posted: 25 May 14 at 3:30pm |
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I always found that on rear sheeted mains when it was windy I was getting pulled backwards so that my shoulders were constantly twisted. On centre main you are only being pulled back into the boat but perpendicularly which saves some twist on the body.
Its also a lot quicker to pull shed loads of main back in when rounding up as you can maximise the amount pulled by both hands. |
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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timeintheboat
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Posted: 25 May 14 at 10:32am |
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We tried centre sheeting in a N12 and there was just no room, in the end there is a third way of sheeting off the boom which is a bit of the best of both worlds.
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Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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sawman
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Posted: 25 May 14 at 7:52am |
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I have sailed both transom and centre sheet boats equally over the years, its just a question of developing your muscle memory. One of the benefit of centremain, is that you can face forwards through manouvers. I sailed on the broads years ago, where tacking in crowded. narrow rivers is considerable easier with the centre arrangement. I stated sailing an old kestrel with transom sheeting, but converted it to centre sheeting, with hilarious consequences for a few outings (tying myself up in knots) We spent a whole weekend tacking and running up and down a stretch of river and got properly used to it. I am ambidextrous now. I recently did an rya dinghy instructor course, and the course leader commented on my inappropriate dagger grip when sailing a transom sheeted wayfarer!!
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craiggo
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Posted: 24 May 14 at 4:20pm |
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Topper originally opted for transom main, but the squads now encourage centre main and I believe new Toppers are centre main.
As you have found out, you can see much more when facing forward in the tacks and this enables you to steer more accurately through the manoeuvre. Gybing is also much easier facing forwards as its easier to hold your balance as the power comes on. It's also easier to grab the falls off the mainsheet to help the boom across. Transom mains were very useful back when blocks and rope were insufficiently strong to pull lots of kicker tension, but now they have had their day. Edited by craiggo - 24 May 14 at 4:22pm |
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