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    Posted: 28 Jun 13 at 7:34am
Hello all,

What's the best package, or combo of packages? for the aspiring dinghy designer with big ideas, reasonable IT talent and no idea about the suitability of CAD packages made for design of other products?

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Excel, Freeship and Rhino will get you a long way. You probably have Excel already, Freeship (as the name suggests) is free (and quite neat for hull design). Rhino is a pretty decent 3d CAD package and you can get a demo version for free limited to 25 saves. The full version is only a grand, which is much less than high end CAD packages, but Rhino does everything needed for a dinghy.
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Back of an envelope or a page from a note pad?

Just keep it, incase you ever need to sue the builders...
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I've used a beer mat to design a National 12. You fold one side in half and tape it, the rest of the shape looks like a nice rounded chineless design.
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Joking aside, Tom's method, given a few darts taken out in appropriate places, is more or less how you build a tortured ply boat.

Quite a few very good dinghies have been designed using hullform, which is no longer developed but available as a free download.

There's an awful lot to be said for spending a lot of time with pencil and paper though, to my mind it gives you a better idea of how things like section shapes and waterlines interact...
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take a leaf from a certain Laser or do I mean Torch...all good engineering documents are on the back of a fag packet!
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Fag packets are too expensive these days for design
Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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Hi Getafix,

These are quick examples of output from Freeship/Rhino



Fag packets are fine, but a pain to calculate hydrostatics on!
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I recommend graph paper over fag packets anyway, at least until you really know what you are doing... Personally I've never advanced to the level of expertise where I can draw freehand sections that match my waterlines...

[later] While not commenting on the actual shapes themselves (I don't think you can tell much from renderings anyway) the quality of the above renderings demonstrate one of the key problems with cad packages: you can get seduced by the beautiful output into thinking you've drawn a beautiful shape.

Edited by JimC - 28 Jun 13 at 12:29pm
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Back in the days when I designed and made windsurf boards I used to use freehand on graph paper as well. I then roughly translated the shape to the foam blank, but once the electric planer was in my hands everything was done by the eye. Much easier to get fair curves that way - well at least for me.
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