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Laser 173312 
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 Topic: Americas Cup - Dull ?Posted: 06 Jul 07 at 10:15am |
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Alternatively it may level out the playing field as everyone is starting from a blank sheet. It can only benefit new syndicates like Origin. And whilst I supported ETNZ this time, I'll definately be supporting Origin this time.
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Norbert
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Posted: 06 Jul 07 at 8:21am |
Soon we'll be back with the J Class! Endeavour anyone? |
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Contender443
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 9:57pm |
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And how many teams will be able to afford 90 footers - may just kill the event.
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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764
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Stefan Lloyd
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 5:56pm |
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You reckon? http://sailjuice.blogspot.com/2007/07/90-footers-for-33rd-cu p.html
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WildWood
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 1:12pm |
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I find the AC class boats quite good looking boats. The seem like a very pure form of sail boat, displacement yachts with no dagger boards, canting keels, water ballast etc. and outwardly appear quite similar to the 12 metres they replaced. The fact that the boats are closely matched is good in my opinion as it makes the racing closer and rewards skillful sailing. One interview I read suggested that the development of rig technology, for example to reduce windage was an area where big gains could be made. Just because the hull form is quite restricted doesn't mean the whole design can't develop. |
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Rupert
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 12:50pm |
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Surely this will happen in any set of rules, that boats, at least from the outside, will look similar, as one shape proves to be quick. Modern International Moths, Cherubs, IRM yachts all look pretty similar to the untrained eye. It is the small detail that makes tham interesting. The fact that they are similar in speed makes for goo match racing, too. Far better than a Cat taking on a giant Mono, and trouncing it. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Teamvmg
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 9:14am |
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It has been said that a change in the design/boats is likely to be made by the defender - thats their right - because that would level the playing field again and make the cup easier to defend. |
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craiggo
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 9:05am |
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The problem with the AC are the design rules. Yet again a group of rule makers have cobbled something together hoping to get a wide spectrum of designs but have unwittingly produced a set of rules which have ultimately ended up with everyone sailing pretty much the same boats. The other problem is the boats have tended to be extremely narrow and lightweight with 23 of the 24tons down at the bottom of the keel. While the boats might be quick, their narrowness to a great extent hides this. To be honest I found the in-port races in the Volvo far more interesting.
IMHO I think the weight rule needs to be heavily revised to force more of the weight back up into the hull, this should force some beam back into the boats and may provide some interesting design concepts to reduce wetted area while mainting heeling stability. Unfortunately the rules arnt likely to change significantly in the short term and given the likely selection of Valencia for 2009, the boats are going to be further optimised to all be like Sui100. What we want is the return of the whacky races ! Paul |
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Contender443
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 7:58am |
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Nationalities have very little do to with it this time. It only porivides a front which is based in the tradition of the cup. As has been said earlier the Kiwi's had 2 boats in the Americas Cup and it was the one associated with cowbells that won. Does anyone know how many Swiss people were on Alingi? |
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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764
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rexw
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Posted: 05 Jul 07 at 12:11am |
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How has Europe overall reacted to the Cup overall , has it created a lot more interest over there . I must say at times it seemed strange having a home defender and a challenger in the cup. If I was Swiss I would find it strange having to go to another country to see your team race
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Go TNZ
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