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    Posted: 04 Jul 07 at 2:10pm

It was odd the way Alinghi romped away down wind in the first race, but by the last race ETNZ seem faster off the wind. The change to symetrical kites seemed to give the boats more options and be easier to handle.

 

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Originally posted by Norbert

Originally posted by rexw

it was far from dull , the best cup since 83 , they were both evenly matched , Alinghi just sailed better , I think there were only two races TNZ couldn't have won the rest were anybodies.



I had the good fortune to watch all the races live on the TV, and sorry i disagree, but in my mind Alinghi didn't sail better. Sure they both made mistakes but on balance i believe ETNZ were the better crew.

The big difference was the boats. Alinghi just accelerated quicker than ETNZ. Off the start line, out of tacks, ETNZ was never going be able to beat Alinghi in any tacking dual. The narrowness of the NZ hull meant that energy was wasted in heeling before accelerating.

The heart was always with ETNZ winning, but sorry New Zealand Alinghi winning means that it will be held in Europe again.

That's my opinion anyway!!

my opinion is that NZL sailed better the first part of the final, but in the last couple of races Alinghi performed better overall. Butterowrth had great timing in his decisions (i beleieve that the taking duels in the last 2 races were won by alinghi also beacuse of their ability/luck to take the right wind shifts).. all the gybes/hoists etc vere perfect (we can't say the same for nzl).

I mean, whithout some avoidable mistakes NZL probably would have won 2 of the last 3 races.. but they've done them, and the cup is over.

In the end I'd say that in the whole series the crews were similar, and alinghi boat was slighly faster.

 

 

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I found it funny when the guy nearly fell out! Shows how much team work is needed in those boats. That whole drop kinda mucked up because of him!
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I agree Norbert. Alinghi had the boat, ETNZ the crew. And whilst I wanted ETNZ to win, the cup will grow bigger by remaining in Europe.

The next edition will probably be in 2 years as a challenger of record has already been signed. The rumour mill has it that it's Origin, but we'll know tomorrow when the announcement is made.

I wonder if we’ll see some of the cup on terrestrial TV with a British team in it.

Rex, which 5 Kiwis are going to join Russel at Oracle?

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Originally posted by rexw

it was far from dull , the best cup since 83 , they were both evenly matched , Alinghi just sailed better , I think there were only two races TNZ couldn't have won the rest were anybodies.



I had the good fortune to watch all the races live on the TV, and sorry i disagree, but in my mind Alinghi didn't sail better. Sure they both made mistakes but on balance i believe ETNZ were the better crew.

The big difference was the boats. Alinghi just accelerated quicker than ETNZ. Off the start line, out of tacks, ETNZ was never going be able to beat Alinghi in any tacking dual. The narrowness of the NZ hull meant that energy was wasted in heeling before accelerating.

The heart was always with ETNZ winning, but sorry New Zealand Alinghi winning means that it will be held in Europe again.

That's my opinion anyway!!
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i was on the edge of my seat watchin the last few minutes of that race it was soooooo close far from dull i would say. I take my hat of to TNZ they did so well n congrats to Alinghi.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rexw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 07 at 9:47pm

it was far from dull , the best cup since 83 , they were both evenly matched , Alinghi just sailed better , I think there were only two races TNZ couldn't have won the rest were anybodies.

Any way I think TNZ will be back in 2 yrs , The NZ government have promissed ten million to keep the team together , i have heard Emirates will still be there , I have also heard the 5 kiwis will be joining Russel Coutts and signing with Oracle , I can't wait for the next cup. If it it in 2 yrs it will all be about momentum , unfortunatley new teams will find it hard to get off the ground in time

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Teamvmg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 07 at 9:15pm
Surely deano took an un-necessary risk at that last windward mark, NZ had pace downwind and should have accepted that the position astern of Alinghi at the hoist cos they could roll them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Laser 173312 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 07 at 6:04pm

I've dug out a picture we saw in Auckland in 2003. It probably still applies

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Deano must be kicking himself.  What happened at the last mark?  Nightmare.
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