Europe dinghy.

   Ok thats what I like.

I never tried the topper/oppie fleets so I dont want 100 boats all going for the same mark 

Thanks all seems a good boat will look into it.

Not many near me but I can travel.
Praps not for a tester but for events etc.

Seems a better boat than any other TBH so dont see me not getting on with one.

Might look into it farther at a later date.

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zailor Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 10 May 09 Location: Penparc Online Status: Offline Posts: 249	Post Options Post Reply Quote zailor Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Europe dinghy. Posted: 10 May 09 at 4:22pm
	Ok thats what I like. I never tried the topper/oppie fleets so I dont want 100 boats all going for the same mark Thanks all seems a good boat will look into it. Not many near me but I can travel. Praps not for a tester but for events etc. Seems a better boat than any other TBH so dont see me not getting on with one. Might look into it farther at a later date.

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 09 at 4:03pm
	A top female sailor I know who did a small stint in a byte said they had issue's nosediving downwind. So don't worry, I don't think it's you. The europe on the other hand from all the people I know who've sailed one say it's a fantastic boat and the hull shape makes it perfect for waves. I'm sure if you go the the europe class website and ask on the forum if someone's willing to let you have a play in their boat, there'll be someone in the area who'll let you have a go. As for the competitiveness, there are some good sailors in Europes such as Chris Gill but the fleet is a bit small these days. Doug H

zailor Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 10 May 09 Location: Penparc Online Status: Offline Posts: 249	Post Options Post Reply Quote zailor Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 09 at 3:31pm
	Any ideas how they are in waves? I keped putting the CII underwater Prahaps its lack of experience in big waves but having something that helps to do the job for me would be nice Is it quite a competitive fleet like a laser or are there some "less hardcore's" out there? I like to think im in the middle of club racers and the sailors that do well at nantional events. Anyway thanks for those replies. Might be nice to sail a boat im heavy enough for a change Those Blaze's are big arent they God fun though

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 09 at 1:58pm
	You're a perfect weight for the europe! Far more optimal than any of the classes you listed above. There are some amazing deals for second hand europes so I'd opt second hand. I too looked at the europe before I opted for the streaker. As for new ones, you'd have to import one as there isn't a UK builder. However, P&B used to offer europes so maybe they might import one and you buy it through them to save yourself the hassle. They already get there oppies from Winner so I don't see why they couldn't add a europe to the next delivery.

Stefan Lloyd Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stefan Lloyd Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 09 at 1:16pm
	Lovely responsive boats. Alas I'm no longer 60Kg! Quite easy to sail, quite hard to sail well. More tuning options and therefore more technical than most comparable classes. http://www.europeclass.org.uk/ is the class association: the best known builder is Winner http://www.winner.es/ but there are others. I'd advise buying a 2nd hand boat if new to the class, until you know better exactly what you want.

zailor Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 10 May 09 Location: Penparc Online Status: Offline Posts: 249	Post Options Post Reply Quote zailor Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 09 at 12:38pm
	Hi Does anybody know anything about the boat? I'm 60KG and I think it will suit my weight better than the Radial, Streaker, Lightning, ok or the RS300 ATM I have a Blaze which is great on inland waters and in F3 but the other day I took a Byte CII out in a F5 out at sea and found the waves and surfing really fun so wanted to try that route out later on. I didnt really like the way the CII handled and wanted something with a more "conventional" rigg without the fully battonted sails etc. Also daft question but I cant find where to buy a new one How good it it in light/heavy winds. How good in waves and inland water. I'll be sailing it in all tyoes of venue but mostly tidal wates but in a sheltered area. So a bit like sea but no waves. How hard/easy/technical is it? Thanks all for anything you tell me.