Just for you, Grumpf

Well another way of explaining it is to imagine the two trapeze wires
attached to the side of the boat and the overhang bit you sit on detaches
and swings out when you need it to is I guess a simpler way of putting it.


Would you then need mast halyards?

Not sure, depends on how well the side locks back in I guess, could be a bit
of a disaster in a windward capsize if you are out on the swing wire, then
again no it should return to the hull if you fell off it.

Not sure, be an interesting concept to try out.

Originally posted by JimC So you mean something like this? I'm not convinced of the advantages you claim! 06_123757_Graphic1.gif">

No not quite, just the bottom bit, kind of a bench made from the
gunwhale overhang, like a playground swing affair, attached by wire with
maybe a guide so it returns home, maybe a bit of a buoyancy half circle
underside can't remember why I thought that bit.

The advantages would be no significant weight increase and the wire
supports the mast at the head, no need for sliding mechanism like the
Canoe or that Skate, other than making it work and the limitation of the
crew leg length, I can't think of any serious disadvantage.

Unfortunately I'm in a bit of a work frenzy mode at the moment so
haven't got time to draw it up properly, but I'm sure it's a viable
alternative to racks, trapezes and or sliding seat mechanism.

Edit PS I was seriously tempted by a canoe that was at the Dinghy show,
blue, all carbon jobby, couldn't see any way of steering it I guess there
must be a wiggle stick thing somewhere, it just wasn't apparent or do
they just use the force like us?

Edited by G.R.F.

With that much righting moment they must be obscenely fast upwind when powered up!

So you mean something like this? I'm not convinced of the advantages you claim!



Edited by JimC

So, I had another flash of inspiration this morning and wondered if it has
been tried elsewhere already, or indeed if the idea is practical.

It concerns the old problem Racks v Trapeze and I wondered if anyone
had ever considered a swinging seat. In other words detach a part of the
side of the hull (or an additional bit) you sit on, by kicking out still sitting
on it (like a playground swing style)and it attached by trap wire in a guide
if necessary and held back in place by bungee cords or whatever.

When not being used it would simply swing back into place making the
bear offs simple on the lee side.

One or two folk could sit on it and it would support the hiking moment
without pressure at the back of the legs and you should get out as far as
a trapeze without the need to hook in and out, I guess longer legged folk
would get an advantage, but then I guess they get that on a trapeze
anyway.

Anyone seen anything like it?




Edited by G.R.F.