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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Seems very civilised but obviously only works where the subs are in the same league as the nearest Royal Blah Blah Golf Club. Don't think our club could aford to give away 40-50 beers every race. |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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It's seems like the burdon (and bad feeling when an officious RO disqualifies you for not signing off) on all sailors isn't justified by the good it does though. |
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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Sounds good to me, perhaps I should spread the word at my club!
What do the Youngsters get though? |
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Hobbo ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Jun 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211 |
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Parkstone the greatest signing on and off the water system:
Trolley is numbered, helm and crew sign on to the water by getting appropriately numbered rubber bands to wear on wrist, sign off by returning the bands to the hut and recieve a beer each when you do so, do you know any sailors that are gonna refuse a free beer for signing off? |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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If you are a complete cheating *********, no it won't. However some people may be certain they are in the right when adrenalin is pumping but realise 30 minutes later that, in fact, they were not. For them, choosing not to sign off is a way to do the right thing without losing much face, albeit later than they should have done. "Should have protested"......most people can't actually be bothered most of the time though, can they? And for good reason. It gets in the way of valuable drinking time. Edited by Stefan Lloyd |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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My word .... what did he edit out!!!!
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Tallies, signing sheets etc, it's all a waste of time. Why do you need to sign to say you've abided by the rules? If you didn't, nobody saw you and you know it, then signing a sheet isn't going to make you retire and if someone noticed your indiscretion then they should have protested. Nobody checks to see if the empty signing box is because a boat is missing, or if they do it's so long after the racing finishes and the results worked out that someone would have noticed the trolly as they were bringing the safety boat in anyway. All clubs I've raced at have treated these systems as secondary to race finishing and trollies being left on the beach and for me it's just a bit useless H&S box ticking with no value. Edited by Matt Jackson |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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I suppose we only have a small lake, but at CSC sign on and sign off were abandoned. If you pass the start gate, you've started. If you pass the finish gate you've finished. At the end of sailing the power boats sweep the lake to check everyone's back on the beach. Certainly saves the anguish of setting off home, realising you've forgotten to sign off and wondering if its really worth going back (with my results, usually not!) Safety aside, what is all this paperwork for? Anyone know? Is it perhaps just that the people of a beaurocratic bent who enjoy being race officers also rather like beaurocracy. |
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Yes I think you have to sign off. 1. for safety reasons - you know who is still out there and, 2. to state formally that you have abided by the rules. I have known people try to get away with cheating in situations where you merely hand in a tally. Presumably they felt they were just reporting back alive and not declaring that they hadn't cheated.
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Who says signing off is all about safety? It is also about signing that you have followed the rules. As such, it provides a humilation-free way of retiring once the adrenalin has worn off. That's certainly why some clubs require it.
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