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BigFatStan 
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 Topic: Video of the weekPosted: 22 Feb 07 at 8:13am |
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They call it the German mainsheet system (although that's usually split to both sides) |
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Oli
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 9:26am |
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Strawberry
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 9:34am |
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Re: 59er with trap... Woah, look at that speed! After they've gybed they don't go back out on the wire. |
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JimC
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 10:41am |
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As the boat was designed without the wire doesn't is suggest good design if it gets best vmg without using it? |
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 11:15am |
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When i sailed the 59er in some light conditions (in the highest gust a force 3) it seemed slow downwind, then myself and a rather large helmed then heated it up and started hiking hard and the boat suddenly too off. If we were max hiking in a force 2-3 to get the most from the boat, it seemed to indicate that a trapeze would be necessary to get the best performance in any sort of good wind.
It has a bigger kite than the RS800 and the 59er has far less leverage. |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 11:52am |
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Or just the design weight of crew instead of your weedy frame (like mine), Doug!
The other thing is that we at Wilsonian, like many UK club racers, sail a lot of kite reaches from mark to mark (nice!) whereas 'serious' sailors will be ploughing the eternal windard-leeward furrow where less righting moment is required under kite. So for our club, yes, a trapeze would be good. But isn't the whole point about the 59'er market niche that it's a hiking boat for old fatties. If you add a wire they won't get a look in. Reminds me of the time I was accosted at the Dinghy Show by huge men on the Phantom stand, suggesting I should join their class. My response, 'sure, if you'll put a trapeze on it for me', was met with horror and signs of the cross - quite right, they'd be blown away by skinnies.
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 12:41pm |
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Im not sure a trapeze will ever be "good" for our club MM, have you not seen us all do silly things like capsize to windward because we couldnt get OFF the trapeze quick enough! Edited by Doug.H |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 12:47pm |
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I thought you were just having fun. Of course, you could always just come in off the wire for the last 300 metres before the line (that's the bit you mean, I suppose?), especially when racing against me... please. |
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tgruitt
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Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 1:57pm |
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Needs to sail more...
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Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 2:07pm |
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Nasty ... that must have done a lot of damage to the boat & crew ... |
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