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    Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 10:19pm
Anyone had any experience of this?

It looks like a fun alternative to an Optimist for kids - it can even be sailed
with an Oppy rig.

Take a look:www.openbic.com

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why would you want to sail it with an oppie rig?its full mylar race rigs only 4.5 sq ft.
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Originally posted by feva_sailor

Its full mylar race rig's only 4.5 sq ft.

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Originally posted by feva_sailor

why would you want to sail it with an oppie rig?its full
mylar race rigs only 4.5 sq ft.


I think the idea is that younger sailors use the Oppie rig and then progress
to the race rig. Also, the Oppie rig is easier for small kids to, er, rig.

It occurs to me that the O'pen (daft name) would attract kids to sailing who
would otherwise find the Optimist not particularly cool.

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Is it me, or does it appear to sail bow-down? Looks a bit scary for a beginner (say 8 year old), less safe looking than an oppie.
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On the 'is it me' side of things, that boat appears to have no kicker either. Although I can't recall whether an Oppie does or not either.
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Yep, Oppies have kickers - well, a little piece of rope between the boom and
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To me it seems to to be the same as a Tera but inferior in many ways.

 

Heavier, no kicker, easier to damage etc and twice the price.

 

 
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Except that the rig is infinitely superior - good review of it in Y&Y - kicker is an optional extra(!).

Personally I like the look of it - shame it weighs so much.

In Aus loads of kids learn to sail in Sabots which are half the weight and don't seem to suffer too much from the knocks.  If a boat is built like a tank then it is heavy and gets dropped so it needs to be built like a tank to withstand it.  Build it light enough to carry and then you can carry it without dropping it so it can be built lighter...
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