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    Posted: 09 Jul 06 at 10:55pm
The L2000 would certainly get round the average inland course quicker with a traditional kite, but that wasn't really the point of the boat...
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Originally posted by Guest#260

That is a good question ...

What is the last class to be launched that is not a SMOD?

Do we have to back to the 60's?

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The Swift Solo was launched as a class after the year 2000. It is not a SMOD. The class is growing well and is owned by the members - not a manufacturer.

We need more classes like this to come along so that the sailors interests are protected not the manufacturers.

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Originally posted by NickA

Originally posted by JimC

They don't work well on slow boats,

They seem to help Laser 2000s along! 

Laser 200 PY is 1089

Tasar PY is 1023 without a kite
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Originally posted by boatshed

Laser 200 PY is 1089

Tasar PY is 1023 without a kite

Laser 2000 without kite probably 1100+

Tasar with asymmetric probably 1000

Besides, what makes a boat nicest to sail (maybe with your girlfriend, maybe with your best mate who's not too hot a sailor) isn't necessarily what makes it fastest. There are loads of boat qualities that make sailing enjoyable (e.g. feel of the helm, handling, wave preformance), speed is just one of them.
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has anyone tried fiting a symetric or an assy to a tasar?would be good

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Originally posted by feva_sailor

has anyone tried fiting a
symetric or an assy to a tasar?would be good

Yes, Frank Bethwaite did some experimentation with an
Asymettric on a Tasar. His conclusion was that it
didn't work. His criteria of "working" was obviously a
lot tighter than that used by say the designer of the 2
tonner! Obviously a pole kite would work, given say a
Laser 2 size kite and pole, but that's not the point of
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Good point about the Swift Solo beoing a non smod one design of more recent ilk. Is she only home build, or are there builders out there building to order?
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Originally posted by JimC

Yes, Frank Bethwaite did some experimentation with an
Asymettric on a Tasar. His conclusion was that it
didn't work. His criteria of "working" was obviously a
lot tighter than that used by say the designer of the 2
tonner! Obviously a pole kite would work, given say a
Laser 2 size kite and pole, but that's not the point of
the boat.

And to think that at the time of launching the Tasar (by Laser), the hype was that the boat was so quick that the apparent wind would be so far forward downwind that a kite would be redundant.

Maybe we need a new topic, 'SMOD hype through the ages'...
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac


And to think that at the time of launching the Tasar
(by Laser), the hype was that the boat was so quick
that the apparent wind would be so far forward downwind
that a kite would be redundant.



I must say I don't remember that, and I was paying
quite a lot of attention. In fact I hardly remember
sailing hot angles downwind being a topic at all back
then. It was a long time ago though, it could be my
memory at fault.
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