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    Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 5:44pm

Originally posted by Strawberry

If you think about it makes sense that they should randomly tip over. The vortex through the centre will create a force in a vertically upwards direction. --------

Tee hee! Oh no, you didn't actually believe the Laser hype about a 'Vortex' through the tunnel hull did you?  I thought that was definately one for the 'punters' not anyone with any knowledge of fast boats. If you thought about that reasoning for a moment, the same would also apply to a Cat - as a similar 'vortex' would be set up by the tunnel between the two hulls and the trampoline - but of course it doesn't does it? In any case, any 'vortex' would dissapate as soon as one side of the tunnel left the water.i.e. the boat heels.

To be fair, I suppose that theoretically there must be some lift. It might be an interesting experiment to see how fast you'd have to be going to get enough lift to flip a 75kg Vortex and a 75kg helm - I reckon about 100mph should do it! Any aeronautical engineers on here?

Yes you're right - amongst several other boats I sail a Vortex - including on Saturday in gusts of up to 33kts   with no random flips. It just doesn't happen - so thanks for taking my word for it.

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I have heard first hand reports of a Vortex getting pitched over backwards in big waves and wind going up a beat. I guess unlike a cat there is plenty of area under the hull forward of the mast so its not quite impossible. Quite possibly you have to sail badly to persuade it to do that. After all Moths can capsize backwards like that tacking if you set your mind on it. I can't imagine it could be done without the big waves to get the big wind under the hull though.
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Originally posted by Hector

. If you thought about that reasoning for a moment, the same would also apply to a Cat - as a similar 'vortex' would be set up by the tunnel between the two hulls and the trampoline

im not an enginneers, but as a cat has a tramp surely there is less pressure as in the vortex no wind can escape through the tramp as there isnt one.

I hope that makes sense. Well it sounded right in my head 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote andy_cherub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 11:41pm

That tunnel system doesnt work - When I used to race A Class's the vortex was just introduced. Still remember one windy reach - I was worried about the lee bow, and then I notice a vortex pitchpole BEFORE me!! HAHA - also they have that stupid hole in the back - so the air can still escape upwards!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ssailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 06 at 1:51pm
Moths falling over backwards is just due to buoyancy, my 14 falls over backwards if you cock a tack up n get stuck head to wind.. boat reverses, tail sinks and bang ur in! 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Suede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 06 at 4:58pm
Any videos of the 59er or RS800 sailing in stronger winds?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote russell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 06 at 9:03pm

Here is my 59er this afternoon in reasonable wind on a small lake.

(Note to others who have followed my 59er thoughts on this forum, this is not my daughter crewing, she is on the camera, I can only apologise....)

http://www.russellsmith.f2s.com/Zoom.rm

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Post Options Post Options   Quote russell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 06 at 9:19pm

My daughter Victoria, who at 12 is too young to register and post her own response to my previous post has instructed me to post the following:

Victoria: But I would rather type it myself! HOW DARE HE!!! >.<

Normal service will be resumed in the next post.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shingle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 06 at 2:33pm
Hmmm, definately a case of a big fish in a small pond.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote russell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 06 at 2:56pm
True but it keeps your boat handling sharp.  Also you get to play knock the hat off the topper sailor with your bowsprit.
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