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Coolhand ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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The AC is no more elitist than F1, Football or any other professional team sport. You have to be rich to own a team and good at what you do to be part of one. But anyone can crew at thier local club, play football for thier local pub or "steal a car and take part in the estate GP".
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coiler ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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I respect your point of view but... Fair enough if you don't want the gov. to spend money on the GBR AC and that you feel that the AC is not 'politically correct' yes the AC is portrayed as being the elite end of the sport. but whether you like it or not the AC is going to have huge media coverage and that is how the public will view our sport. The South Africans will be there with a message and that message is we have an acadamy to get kids off the streets and into yachting and here are some of the people we have produced. Also all of the great yachting nations will be there except Great Britain, how do you feel about that? As for my real name it is a bit of a mouthfull; Louay Habib. Coiler is my nickname, I have absolutely no financial interest in the AC whatsoever but I am passionate about yacht racing and promote it through my web site (www.bangthecorner.com) To save you asking I am an half Iraqi roman catholic grinder (you don't see many of those about do you). |
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Contender443 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211 |
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Coiler - why do you want to remain annon? Are you a (financially) interested party? I think you are missing the point here - most people here do not agree with government sponsorship of a commercial organisation. The AC is hardly politically correct is with the obscene amounts of money being spent on it. It also portrays the sport as very etlitist - it hardly encourages people to join our sport does it. I am saying that any media coverage may actually do our sport more harm than good. Edited by Contender443 |
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coiler ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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I think some of you are missing the point. I am suggesting that the Government should put up 'some of the funding' or at the least show they would like to see the team compete at the AC 2007. this will be seen as a green light to a private sector sponsors. How do you think some firms obtain Government contracts? Secondly to say that the AC2007 will not get sufficient media coverage is ridiculous. It will get huge media coverage especially as it is the first time it has been back in Europe since 1851. |
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Coolhand ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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Very good question - shortsightedness, lack of undersatnding of the sailing market demographics, not enough sailors in corporate marketing departments. I also think that GBR Challenge let the mommentum go at the end of the LV Cup when they should have been out looking for sponsership. Whilst to sailors AC match racing maybe less exciting than big fleet Olympic races, I still feel that it is the 2nd best PR platform to get Sailing to the general public, the human intrest angle (Ellen, BT challenge) being the best.
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Contender443 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211 |
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Hasn't Peter Harrison offered to underwrite 50% of GBR challenge? That means corporate sponsors in the UK only have to take up 50%. And they still do NOT want to take up the challenge. Why? Slots on Grandstand are hardly prime time TV - who watches that? I suspect the die hard football couch potatoe might watch it. Hardly the type of person that will stay watching sailing. I watched some of the last America's Cup on TV and found it very boring. Once you have seen 1 tack and 1 gybe you had seen it all.
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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764
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Coolhand ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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The last GBR Challenge made national news and at least 2 or 3 1/2 hour slots on Grandstand only the Olympics and Ellen gets more. To Joe Public it the most understandable form of our sport (as a sport and not a human interest story) especially when edited Rally style, i.e. results and spectacular highlights. It would be very interesting to look into the finances of the Billionaire backed syndicates to see how much actually ended up coming out of the Billionaires pocket – I’ve got a sneaky suspicion that once you take all the sponsorship, merchandising, advertising, corporate hospitality benefits e.t.c. into to account they won’t be seriously out of pocket. (You don’t get to be a Billionaire by throwing money away.) What the Billionaires do is provide the creditability and underwriting that the corporate world need before it will take a risk. |
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Phil eltringham ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105 |
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I reckon the tide ride would have made a good half hour on grandstand the following saturday. It wasn't too windy but there was plenty of action!! I'm pretty sure it could have been edited and filmed to make it more than watchable to the general public!! |
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Contender443 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211 |
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Sorry hurricane are you saying the AC gets prime time TV - if so where, I have not seen it. Come to think of it I have not seen any sailing on prime time TV. We all know how much fun sailing is on the water but as a spectator sport it will never rate highly. |
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hurricane ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047 |
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well it does get prime time tv and alot of companys are getting bored of formula one |
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