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    Posted: 25 Nov 04 at 6:29pm

Excuse the pun - but football is a different ball game altogether!!

Look at the publicity football gets - that is why it gets the money.

The America's Cup is boring unless you are actually taking part. Who wants to watch 2 boats sailing up and down at less than 20mph, sometimes miles apart, sometimes not racing because of too much/little wind etc?

It is exciting for the Ainslies / Percys of this world as they are taking part. 

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how much has mr obram spent on chelsea??
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Are we not talking about what will motivate a billionaire to throw around his cash in tens of millions?

So what motivates them - it has either got to be a love of the sport or publicity.

Look at Mr Branson's high profile stunts and for that matter Steve Fossett's in his balloon. These are high profile, high publicity events - you can hardly say that about the Americas Cup.

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

If you were very wealthy and interested in sailing would you:

1. Fund an AC campaign where the only position on the boat you could hope for is 17th man or:

2. Be owner-helm of a Z86 at a fraction of the cost. An AC campaign isn't "small change" even to a billionaire.

I know which I'd go for.

 

 

But look at ernesto berterelli, did he not actively contribute to the alighi team success at the last AC.

i'm pretty sure that most of the billionaires would choose to keep completely away from the AC as it gives relatively little money back but what i'm is saying that it would a good way to get funds for GBR challange and a better set up for the team rather than getting a sponsorship deal with a company with more commercial interest than the actual sailing.

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Originally posted by lozza

Having just had a look at the rich list 2004 for the uk it seems that there are now 29 billionaires in Britain, equal to one for every two million people. Surely, some of these people have an interest in sailing?

If you were very wealthy and interested in sailing would you:

1. Fund an AC campaign where the only position on the boat you could hope for is 17th man or:

2. Be owner-helm of a Z86 at a fraction of the cost. An AC campaign isn't "small change" even to a billionaire.

I know which I'd go for.

 

 

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Having just had a look at the rich list 2004 for the uk it seems that there are now 29 billionaires in Britain, equal to one for every two million people, which is a greater concentration than America, which has one dollar billionaire to every 3.6 million people.

Surely, some of these people have an interest in sailing?

I suggest gbr challange write a very polite letter to mr abramovich (£7.2 bn), asking if he has any spare change lying about.

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You'd be suprised how much a four year olympic campaign works out at! Especially for Yngling and Star sailors. The money supplied by the lottery is still only a fraction of that cost and the Olympic Sailors still need to rely on the Corporate sponsors.

The AC will always be cheque book sailing - anyone spoken to Mr Branson recently?

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Here Here Stefan

Exactly how many Olympic campaigns could you subsidise for the cost of one AC Team?

Work that out and you will see why the AC will never get Lottery Funding.(and must not get it )

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Originally posted by coiler

I agree that funds should be made availiable for 'grass roots' sailing but it is pointless if you can't grow into a tree.

I'd say the opposite. I support government and lottery funding for "sport for all", in particular to help people who don't come from sailing families to enter the sport. But professionals should stand on their own feet. If Ben Ainslie wants to compete in the AC, good luck to him, but I really don't see why the taxpayer should foot the bill. Unfortunately if the government paid for everyone's dream lifestyle, there would be nobody left working to actually pay for it. I'm not opposed to lottery funding for Olympic campaigns but the cost of those is a minute fraction of the budget of an AC campaign.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote coiler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 04 at 11:41am

yacht racing in the national press, now that would be a novelty!

one of the reasons that we have been the top nation in the last two Olympics is the lottery funding.

and lets be honest our olympic sailors are not exactly amateurs and they aspire to be in the AC ask Ben Ainslie or Ian Percy.

I agree that funds should be made availiable for 'grass roots' sailing but it is pointless if you can't grow into a tree.

 

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