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    Posted: 18 Jan 06 at 9:24am

do not worry about it we have been throg it all befor

 

the 4000 would not be a very good youth class

as we already have the 29er which is better for the 49er and it is not a class that is sailed all over the world unlike the 29er

and to be honist it is not much of a skiff

and i feel after this i am going to get a  from luke

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Originally posted by 5420

and to be honist it is not much of a skiff

and i feel after this i am going to get a  from luke

na ur safe for the minute but i will be coming to grafham soon so watch ur back     only kidding. 

yer well i agree with the skiff bit cos it is very stable but that is mainly cos of the 4 foot long dagger board,  but we have the racks which is the trend at the moment to get more leverage but i think they just look cool.   but once the wind gets over a f4ish we can spnak a 29er hands down  



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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 06 at 5:35pm

well where i sail the only way we could beat tehm on handy cap was when it was a 4 or more and it is not becuse they are not good they are top 3 in the 4000 fleet

i find the 29er very under powerd

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No offence to 4000 sailors but I have never been beat by a 4000, at rutland we use to lap most of them in club races in a 29er.

The 29er is underpowered but u can still flat line upwind in 10knots which isnt to bad.

I am probably going to get shreded for saying this but the 4k is a shed

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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 6:13pm
The 4k is not a shed. Be quiet i think ur tlkin out of ur arse personally. The 29er is a boat designed for the light sailor and that is where it falters as not every single youth is that small and cannot sail a 29er competitively. This is where the 4k is good as it caters for a larger weight range and is much more robust and generally hust a better boat in my opinion. Although the 9er is a good step up to the 49er i just think that is a waste of time personally.
Now this is just my personal opinion but we have always beaten 9ers up and down hill even one Sailed by Alex Hopson
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well said alex. 

and anyway we wont listen to someone called skiffman.  we will race u any time, any were. 

well as we sail past u in our shed we will wave.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skiffman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 7:21pm

You dont have to be that light to sail a 29er, how big is big, you can be up to 80kgs and like 185cm as a crew thats pretty big to be fair for a youth any bigger and you could sail a 49er.

are you coming to the tiger trophy out of interest? If you are i am in 29er GBR5 and the race is on.

see you at the finsh line...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 7:30pm
Sadly not as we are doing lots events this year, the parentials decided that it was too much to go to the tiger aswell and we are about 160kg combined so u see our prob!



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Originally posted by mike ellis

ok DOWN WITH OPPIES there slow and dont even have a proper front . and there are not enough youth classes. the olympics isnt everything.

Why does a class have to have a classification as a "Youth Class" before a youth will sail it? strikes of lack of imagination to me. If a Youth doesn't want to sail a oppy/topper/laser/420/29er. Then go look for a different boat, don't expect one to be ready labelled for you. Go out and find it. Have a look in to the dinghy park and find the boat that makes you go wow and ask for a sail in one be it a 4 tonner or a 505 or a RS800. A fireball is a nice fast fun boat that really isn't beyond the ability of most if not all youf sailors that I know. If you get a ride in a boat you really enjoy pester the people who have one untill they find you a route in to the class.

I sailed a Dutchman for the first time properly when I had just been knocked back by the welsh topper squad, So I said, I don't care what you lot think I want to have fun. I was taken out in a Dutchman, and after that pesterd the guy who owned it untill he got me into the class properly. I now crew at most events(for someone else, but still.) The RYA racing youf classes will always be geared towards grooming the next Shirley Robertson, and that's no bad thing. It isn't their job to match people to boats, thats the job of the person.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 9:42am
the reason we all would like to stay in youth class altow they are rubish boats normaly with a few that are good but the free coaching you can get is the best they will teach you lots to get you started in your sailing then you can move on and the only reason i would not sail a youth class as i dont is because i dont want to sail the laser all the time and do the squdes in that i would like to do it in the 29er as i had one but i couln never get a helm and i would still want to as the worlds are at waymoth this year but im not going to put the money into it my self so iv got a boat that i can enjoy and will give me the skills to move up in to the rs700 by this time next year wich is good
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