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redders 
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 Topic: Pursuit Race Start TimesPosted: 05 Jan 06 at 3:02pm |
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At my club we have 2 systems. The first is a computer system as per Aldridge that is used in the same way for handicap races, and can be used for pursuits. The second is a control unit ( PLC ) from a conveyor system that is used just for pusuit races. The PLC does seem to be the more accurate. Back to the original question...... Rounding times means that as a percentage of the total time sailed the faster boats may be heavier penalised given the amount of the rounding, but in the greater scheme of things does it really matter. I am not convinced that pursuit racing is all that fair on the fast boats anyway. |
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 2:46pm |
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... and certainly will be fairly accurate over the duarion of the start sequence if not the whole race day.
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Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 2:43pm |
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But surely this will be more acurate than rounding to the nearest minute? |
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Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 10:30pm |
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Just a note of caution - PC clocks are notoriously inaccurate, the timing interval is not always exactly the same.  |
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 1:27pm |
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When I sailed at both Herne Bay and Weston they used a pre-prepared form with all the individual start times to the second marked on it and just before the start seqence begins they scratch out all the starts time with no entrants. There isn't that many more starts than a rounded up/down system, they are just at odd intervals, and everyone is happy... as long as the wind stays constant
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john.d.knight
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Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 1:21pm |
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Aldridge may possibly the smallest sailing club in the country but I think we may have one of the technically advanced recording systems. If you want to run a pursuit race you just tell the computer what fleets are starting and the length of the race and the computer will sound the start guns rounded to the nearest second!. If you run a handicap race then the times are recorded by the click of a mouse and the final results are printed off as soon as the last boat finishes. All this is courtesy of an enthusiastic Solo sailing IT consultant. |
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 1:05pm |
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It's a bit rough when you are given exactly the same start time as a faster boat though! The last one I did I was given the same start time as a Fireball! They passed me 5 mins from the end on a downwind leg despite me getting a better start and covering them the whole race and I ended up letting faster boats through in the process Edited by Matt Jackson |
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Garry
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Posted: 03 Jan 06 at 5:44pm |
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30 second starts are possible with enough helpers and if you use 3 digit numbers. In an one hour race it takes a lot of effort to claw back 42 seconds when there might only be 18 seconds/hour between handicaps (ie Lark and full rig laser).
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Posted: 01 Jan 06 at 9:01pm |
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Exacltly, or offer to run a 1000 minute race so they can all start at the right time..... |
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bigwavedave
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Posted: 01 Jan 06 at 5:29pm |
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Tell them to organise it themselves whilst you go and sail. I think that the majority of people who complain about losing 30secs of time will probably need a lot more help than 30secs to win the race anyway.
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