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    Posted: 16 Nov 04 at 5:24pm
wow, i thought i had it hard having to bike for 15 mins with all my gear to sailing but two hours, thats impressive!!!
brian, i don't mean this horribly at all, so don't take it the wrong way, but why do you read and use a sailing forum where people are talking about their boats, and sailing when it makes you depressed to hear it cos you don't have a boat?!!
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an hour in a car i meant. i might join the rcyc eventually, but i
dont really know anyone there and probly wont get racing until i
get my own boat..
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I can remember when I first started sailing.  Similar story to your own.  Sails spinnaker pole and anything that had need repairs plus my kit went with me on the tube to Charing Cross and then by train to Sheppey and then back again when wet and heavy.  The first year I couldn't afford a wetsuit so wore jeans and a yellow plastic top.  I capsized a lot so get very cold and wet but persevered.  I kinda appreciate my breathable top, steamer and a car to carry it all.

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Brian,

I used to live in central london without a car and i used to have an epic to get to sailing. I strapped my foils to the back of my bike and used a drain pipe on my bike to hold the sails, and panniers for my kit. I cycled or should I say wobbled on my bike for 10 minutes to the train station. then I managed to fight my way through Waterloo station in London (and commuters in suits and tourists), to take a train for 45 minutes to a train station which was 2 miles from the club whereupon I would then wobble for another 20 minutes or so to get to the sailing club. In total this took about two hours from door to boat, and then 15 minutes to get on the water. Then I had to repeat the journey home again with wet kit which is twice as heavy!

Perserve it is well worth it. I now have a car and am 2 minutes from my boat and guess what I drive - how lazy!  

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 04 at 4:37pm
well know u guys know why i am such a moaner, it is quite
frustrating to have all u guys going on aboat sailing when the
next time im sailing is probably easter....

harry, the nearest sailing club to me is about an hour away! i
am in the place furthest away from any large body of water in
ireland and what is my favourite sport? sailing!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 04 at 9:27am
There is nothing like being out of control to show you, you are alive!!, I used to think keelboats were boaring but after having raced them in 30+ knots (sunfast 36 in Largs), the rush is just the same!!  The speed may not be there but the loads are so much higher, and it hurts a lot more if you get hit by something .  Each to their own, go get your fix your way!!
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That's ok but you should really join a club and start racing- in something simpleish to start with, not dive in a the deep end in a 29er, that'll come later!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 04 at 9:20pm

but when i said i was a sailing newb, i meant compared to u guys on the forum, i was and still am going for my level four (lvl preceding instructorship) on the ISA small boat sailing scheme

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 04 at 9:10pm

um, well i have snapped the mast on a topaz uno, which is pretty tough, and dont even know how.... and also for an unexpected reason i have snapped the rudder on a 420, this one really mystified me, i was just blastin along in a straight line and it snapped for no apparent reason and the boat gybed on top of my crew who was out on the wire... pretty freaky. for a newbie like me anyway . i really should still be a newbie, even tho i am nearing a posting king...

if u see my first post, which i think was a topic called online reviews that never took off u will see i confess to being a sailing newb, i have done about 10hrs of sailing since then, in 5 days, so the last time i was sailing is..... the week preceding halloween.

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Brian - have you actually competitively sailed a keelboat, or a cat or an Oppie, Topper, 420? (What is your sailing experience?). We might all dream about how well we can sail the latest super fast skiff but the reality, for a large number would be lots of time swimming, frustration and broken rigs. Sail a J24 or 60' yacht in a race or extreme conditions - just as much adrenaline - esp if you work the foredeck and are trying to hank on the jib while the bow is dropping vertically what seems like 20 feet!

We all sail for different reasons and get something different from the sport, every class has something special - to say just one class is superior to another on the basis of the adrenaline rush, is, in my opinion, to completely miss the point.

I frequently deride the class a friend sails over a pint and the quid pro quo is he does the same to me. However, if he needed a crew I wouldn't hesitate to sail in it if I was at a loose end and if asked for advice would recommend it if I thought it suitable.

I suggest you get out and sail, whatever floats, be it the unmanagable pig like Hurley 22 (does anyone remember them?) Hurricane or Laser 5000, once you have a few gales/broaches/ripped mains under your belt in a variety of craft you'll be a bit more sanguine about what and why others sail what they do (even the funboat).
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