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    Posted: 13 Nov 05 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by JimC

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Selden has been trialled and has proved to meet the requirements of a modern responsive rig.


Really, you mean you've gone fully battened? (Cause you can't have a modern style gust response rig without) Seems rather a drastic thing to do to the Osprey, I thoughtitwas rather stylish as it was, if not my sort of thing.


Ummm don't think so. Responsive means something a bit different to us larger chaps.


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Sounds like a major makeover to me.  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.
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Originally posted by boatshed

  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.

let me reformulate this proposition - let's change the rules of one of the class that allows normal adults to compete to to create yet another class for dwarves! There are too many classes for lightweight sailors.

Dinghy sailing is losing out to keelboat and big boat sailing because there are few classes left that can be sailed by two adult men! Sailing has failed to adapt to the increasing size of adults, instead crews appear to be getting lighter and lighter. Let's encourage more classes that cater for 180-200+ kg crews

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Originally posted by gordon

Originally posted by boatshed

  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.

let me reformulate this proposition - let's change the rules of one of the class that allows normal adults to compete to to create yet another class for dwarves! There are too many classes for lightweight sailors.

Dinghy sailing is losing out to keelboat and big boat sailing because there are few classes left that can be sailed by two adult men! Sailing has failed to adapt to the increasing size of adults, instead crews appear to be getting lighter and lighter. Let's encourage more classes that cater for 180-200+ kg crews

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I think that about sums it up nicely Gordon.   Ospreys carry weight well so grown ups as well as smaller people can sail them on a competitive basis.



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Originally posted by boatshed

Sounds like a major makeover to me.  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.

Have they included can holder in the new deck design as I know those Osprey boys like a beer - I did an event a few years back in  Andy Barkers boat sailing with Vyv Townend; I think I was fleet lightweight in more than one respect.

I could hardly walk in the morning let alone sail ...

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JimC, why can't you have a gust responsive rig without it being fully battened?

Seams odd to me given that modern Merlin Rocket rigs seam to work very effectively in gusty conditions.

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I'll second that DaveT, I was thinking the same thing about contenders.
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Can holders!  I though Ospreys came with a cocktail cabinet as standard.

This reminds me of when I first took my little brother sailing in a Scorpion.  After a couple of minutes he said "put the heater on I'm cold".
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I think it is the word "Modern" that Jimc is meaning. A Europe rig is gust responsive, too, but is hardly modern!
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