Boat Sellers Beware

Note - other names have also been used

   Please be aware that an internet fraudster is trying to buy boats from various UK class association websites (both the Sprint 15 and the International Canoe have suffered a number of hits). It’s a scam to get money sent to a shipping company, no doub’t it doesn’t exist.  You could loose your boat and the cost of shipping as the bankers draft is sure to bounce. Here is some of the messages that have been sent: 

HELLO, 
AM INTERESTED IN BUYING THE BOAT YOU PLACED ON NET FORSALE.HOWEVER,I WANT TO KNOW THE BEST PRICE FOR IT AND ALSO TO KNOW IF IT'S AVAILABLE FORSALE. DO SEND THE PICS OF IT TO ME AND PLS DON'T HESITATE TO LET ME KNOW ANYTHING YOU FEEL I'D KNOW ABOUT IT. 
WAITING FOR YOUR SWIFT RESPONSE. 
REGARDS 

JAMES M'CHENRY...CENTRUM INC. 
MERSEYSIDE,SOUTHPORT. 
+44 07045727234.

Note - other names have also been used

The second message reads:

HELLO ,
 THANKS FOR THE MAIL YOU SENT TO ME...I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT TELLING ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT....HOWEVER,I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE PRICE IS OKAY BY ME AND AS FOR THE SHIPPING THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM ..I WILL CONTACT A SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING...SO THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM... 
      AS FOR THE PAYMENT I'LL BE PAYING WITH A BANKER'S DRAFT WHICH'LL BE CASHED  EASILY...I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'LL BE ADDING THE SHIPPING PAYMENT TO THE DRAFT THAT WILL BE SENT TO YOU IN WHICH YOU WILL DEDUCT YOUR £XXXX AND SEND THE REMAINING BALANCE TO THE SHIPPING COMPANY THAT 'LL BE COMING FOR THE PICK UP AT YOUR PLACE...TO SEND IT OUT I WILL NEED YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS WHERE THE DRAFT  WILL BE SENT TO AND PROBABLY YOUR PHONE NUMBER...THIS IS MINE 07045727234....DO SEND THE INFO TO ME ASAP...
 HOPING TO HEAR FROM U SOONEST..
    REGARDS

So be warned and DO NOT PROCEED.

PS The following describes many of the scams people use to trick sellers: 
http://www.boatclassifieds.us/index.php?a=28&b=139

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Sprint Bob Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 17 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sprint Bob Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Boat Sellers Beware Posted: 14 Mar 08 at 1:31pm
	Please be aware that an internet fraudster is trying to buy boats from various UK class association websites (both the Sprint 15 and the International Canoe have suffered a number of hits). It’s a scam to get money sent to a shipping company, no doub’t it doesn’t exist. You could loose your boat and the cost of shipping as the bankers draft is sure to bounce. Here is some of the messages that have been sent: HELLO, AM INTERESTED IN BUYING THE BOAT YOU PLACED ON NET FORSALE.HOWEVER,I WANT TO KNOW THE BEST PRICE FOR IT AND ALSO TO KNOW IF IT'S AVAILABLE FORSALE. DO SEND THE PICS OF IT TO ME AND PLS DON'T HESITATE TO LET ME KNOW ANYTHING YOU FEEL I'D KNOW ABOUT IT. WAITING FOR YOUR SWIFT RESPONSE. REGARDS JAMES M'CHENRY...CENTRUM INC. MERSEYSIDE,SOUTHPORT. +44 07045727234. Note - other names have also been used The second message reads: HELLO , THANKS FOR THE MAIL YOU SENT TO ME...I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT TELLING ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT....HOWEVER,I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE PRICE IS OKAY BY ME AND AS FOR THE SHIPPING THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM ..I WILL CONTACT A SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING...SO THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM... AS FOR THE PAYMENT I'LL BE PAYING WITH A BANKER'S DRAFT WHICH'LL BE CASHED EASILY...I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'LL BE ADDING THE SHIPPING PAYMENT TO THE DRAFT THAT WILL BE SENT TO YOU IN WHICH YOU WILL DEDUCT YOUR £XXXX AND SEND THE REMAINING BALANCE TO THE SHIPPING COMPANY THAT 'LL BE COMING FOR THE PICK UP AT YOUR PLACE...TO SEND IT OUT I WILL NEED YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS WHERE THE DRAFT WILL BE SENT TO AND PROBABLY YOUR PHONE NUMBER...THIS IS MINE 07045727234....DO SEND THE INFO TO ME ASAP... HOPING TO HEAR FROM U SOONEST.. REGARDS So be warned and DO NOT PROCEED. PS The following describes many of the scams people use to trick sellers: http://www.boatclassifieds.us/index.php?a=28&b=139

olly_love Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145	Post Options Post Reply Quote olly_love Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Mar 08 at 5:02pm
	i have had one of those as well. oh and by the way im still selling my 14 pm me
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neilw Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 26 Jul 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote neilw Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 08 at 4:54pm
	just had a suspect email from emond1001@yahoo.com via the Y&Y classifieds. and, yes he's a scammer.

tmoore Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Nov 07 Location: Wales Online Status: Offline Posts: 880	Post Options Post Reply Quote tmoore Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 08 at 5:55pm
	a good idea for this kind of thing is to put their addy into www.rapleaf.com this will tell you a bit about the person (if they use the interenet often). its not flawless but can help lessen the risks.
	Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse

K6Tony Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 17 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote K6Tony Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 08 at 9:56am
	I got the following: 2008/9/9 James Machnery <jamchenry_02@yahoo.co.uk> HELLO, AM INTERESTED IN BUYING THE ITEM YOU PLACED ON NET FORSALE.HOWEVER,I WANT TO KNOW THE BEST PRICE FOR IT AND ALSO TO KNOW IF IT'S AVAILABLE FORSALE. DO SEND THE PICS OF IT TO ME AND PLS DON'T HESITATE TO LET ME KNOW ANYTHING YOU FEEL I'D KNOW ABOUT IT. WAITING FOR YOUR SWIFT RESPONSE. REGARDS I then got HELLO , THANKS FOR THE MAIL YOU SENT TO ME...I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT TELLING ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT....HOWEVER,I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE PRICE IS OKAY BY ME....I WILL CONTACT A SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL HANDLE THE SHIPPING...SO THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM... AS FOR THE PAYMENT I'LL BE PAYING WITH A BANKER'S DRAFT WHICH'LL BE CASHED EASILY...I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'LL BE ADDING THE SHIPPING PAYMENT TO THE DRAFT THAT WILL BE SENT TO YOU IN WHICH YOU WILL DEDUCT YOUR £1,350 AND SEND THE REMAINING BALANCE TO THE SHIPPING COMPANY THAT 'LL BE COMING FOR THE PICK UP AT YOUR PLACE...TO SEND IT OUT I WILL NEED YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS WHERE THE DRAFT WILL BE SENT TO AND PROBABLY YOUR PHONE NUMBER...THIS IS MINE 07045727234....DO SEND THE INFO TO ME ASAP... HOPING TO HEAR FROM U SOONEST.. REGARDS I then searched on the email address and phone number and found this forum I then sent an abusive email back to him. Edited by K6Tony

English Dave Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682	Post Options Post Reply Quote English Dave Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Sep 08 at 2:34pm
	I got one of these a couple of years ago. Easy to spot as there are usually basic spelling mistakes. Incidentally, I have found that to sell a boat these days you have to be pretty proactive. Listing it in the small ads and sitting back to wait for the phone to ring doesn't work. Another thing - always set up a Webmail account for selling your boat. I published my main account in my on-line small-ad and then got spammed to death whereas before my account was spam free. My account is now defended by the mighty GMail Spam-filter.
	English Dave Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700