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    Posted: 17 Aug 08 at 9:24pm
Originally posted by ColH


However, I'm really hoping the 470s get a similar breeze - I reckon they will
make an even better spectacle.


Me too. The 470s would have ripped up the course today. We'd have seen
some world class sailing action rather than loads of capsising. Fingers
crossed.
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Incidentally, if you want an idea of how the general public perceives sailing,
then take a look at the Sun's website. The report of Man Utd 1-1 Newcastle
has 70 comments and the report of Ben Ainslie's Gold medal has 1 comment.
The general public unfortunately doesn't give a sh*t.
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Well now its time to find out how far the rule 2 streches....

becurse Sportsmanship is what we have seen from the sailors, but how does it apply to a race commity...

It ist clearly statet that it is a fundamental rule, and therefore a commity with guts could hang a decition on that rule alone....even if other rules are broken or partly broken....

And OK i´m Danich Wink

 

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I really wouldn't like to be on this protest committee. Nothing like this has
happened before at this level, so it's new ground. I'd have thought that it
would be pretty straightforward to find against the Danes, but it's quite
interesting that the committee have decided to re-convene tomorrow,
stating that the case is complicated. Sounds like this could go either way.

I think that for certain, this has been a worst-case scenario for the medal
race format, which has blown up in the faces of those who championed it.
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Originally posted by Hangel

Well now its time to find out how far the rule 2 streches....

becurse Sportsmanship is what we have seen from the sailors, but how does it apply to a race commity...

It ist clearly statet that it is a fundamental rule, and therefore a commity with guts could hang a decition on that rule alone....even if other rules are broken or partly broken....

And OK i´m Danich Wink

 

We'll see; My son wants the Danes to win; he now wants a 49er for Christmas!  I was hopng he would want a Tornado.

 

He's 7.

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Originally posted by Roy Race

I really wouldn't like to be on this protest committee. Nothing like this has
happened before at this level, so it's new ground. I'd have thought that it
would be pretty straightforward to find against the Danes, but it's quite
interesting that the committee have decided to re-convene tomorrow,
stating that the case is complicated. Sounds like this could go either way.

I think that for certain, this has been a worst-case scenario for the medal
race format, which has blown up in the faces of those who championed it.

 

Totally agree; I can see the ctte pawing over the Danish boat to see if it was damaged "enough" to justify borrowing another boat; then were the correct procedures followed, and correct paperwork filed.

 

I can see there boing uproar either way.

 

Edit to add.  What ever happens, if I was at 2012, I would insist on having a second boat available, fully rigged, with the correct stickers on for the medal race as it is non-discardable. 

If it's non-discardable, surely you should be on the line to try and win it.

 

But, part of sailing is preserving the boat to finish the race.

 

If it goes one way people will get tow's to the start and get released 15 seconds before the prep gun goes if it's windy, if it goes the other, everyone will bring spare boats.   

 



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Originally posted by Roy Race

Incidentally, if you want an idea of how the general public perceives sailing,
then take a look at the Sun's website. The report of Man Utd 1-1 Newcastle
has 70 comments and the report of Ben Ainslie's Gold medal has 1 comment.
The general public unfortunately doesn't give a sh*t.

When the Sun becomes the barometer for the whole of the UK we are in big trouble.

The race was great drama; the sea state was the big challenge and we saw the lead change hands many times ... great TV.

Hope the Danes hang on to their gold ...

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Sorry to my eyes the 49's looked bad in the light wind and were a joke in the big seas today and should they be racing boats that only work in a narrow range of conditions

There are any number of less extreme boats that would make for better racing, and thus better TV veiwing in a full range of conditions...

As a Musto skiff 29er sailor I clearly like my modern fast boats but i dont think the 49er has made for the best sailing at this olympics.

 

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According to Andy Rice, the Danes keep their medal. Decision not yet on the ISAF site.

There's wind today (apparently decreasing) and sailing in progress but no BBC coverage.



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The 470's medal race looks much more impressive to me, & lets be honest non sailors don't watch any of the sailing.
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