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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Wow, that's pretty heavy! I guess being so heavy it needs a lot more
sail area for the same performance as something like the 800 - won't
slow down as quick though! Sounds like I want to try and avoid bags
then. Are the 800s much more popular than the 4000s, any idea? There
seem to be a lot of 4000s coming up for sale than 800s, and the 800s
are twice the price.
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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It depends where you sail, both boats are really popular, best looking
at the nationals attendance figures for a rough guide and then going to
your club to see what's sitting in the dinghy park. For instance at
HSC, we have no 800s in the dinghy park just now but a good few 4000
but at other clubs the reverse is true. The 800 did take a massive
chunk out of the 4000s market but you have to be aware of regional
trends too. Up in Scotland, the MPS and 49er are really taking off just
now and are showing a real growth in comparision to other classes but
that will be different in other areas.
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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I'm moving house in a few weeks and moving back again (hopefully) in a
year so my sailing club's gonna change soon! I sail at Chew Valley near
Bristol at the moment (used to spend a lot of time up at Faslane btw -
not sure if youd have been sailing then though!) and there's a few
4000s in the boat park but I haven't seen any out yet, but have seen a
couple of 800s. Saw a 49er advertised recently that looked to be a
total steal, but unfortunately I need a bit more cash for that or an
800!
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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Having sailed both 49ers and 800's I,d say the only significant difference is the skill level required by the crew. On the 800 you can get away with a slightly less physical crew, who makes the odd mistake and you wont get punished too much. Weight wise the 800 is actually a better weight carrying boat than the 9er, contrary to popular belief. From a helms point of view the 800 is quirky and can be a arse in light winds whereas the 9er is a piece of cake until you reach 20kts. 9er can be difficult to launch and recover from narrow slipways and especially when you have an onshore breeze with a narrow slipway.
9ers are however cheap and there are a couple at Chew, Chris Gill, Ben McGrane etc. A good 2nd hand old boat £3000. As for 800 a good 2nd hand boat £4500 Given your position If you have a guarenteed crew, get a L4000 or 49er if you havnt, get an RS600! |
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Ginger_69 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 481 |
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i have seen quite a few 800's at chew and only 1-2 9ers, i have also only seen 3-4 L4000's. If ur looking for class compation at chew in the 800 but if ur looking for fun the 49er or just for a laugh and some comp the L4k i personaly wouldnt mind u having any of them cus their all fast and i can have a good go in 1 |
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Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
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jpbuzz591 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793 |
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yeah if you need a crew.... also ben i have seen you have put up an add in the clubhouse saying you want to do sum crewing and at the mo, i am a crew/helm short |
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Jp Indoe
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Ginger_69 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 481 |
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if u were wondering ben he sails a buzz and spends most of his time ither in the water or messing round with a laser on sat's
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Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
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jpbuzz591 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793 |
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me sail a laser? ive never sailed a laser!
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Jp Indoe
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Cheers craiggo, I guess really I need to try them both out but that's a
little tricky! Do you know how they compare in terms of maintenance
costs? Could be pretty important! I'm waiting to hear back from
wilwind, they're selling off some boats and I've asked for prices. Been
told I may be able to get a loan from parents if what I want comes up
at a good price! I'm guessing being ex-centre boats they'll be at good
prices (here's hoping, anyway!). Sounds like I'm gonna need a rota or
something to organise who my crew'll be
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jpbuzz591 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793 |
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no sorry ben im not going to be there on saturday casue of a rugby match but might be down on the sunday
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Jp Indoe
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